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Spirit or spirit?

Post by macca » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:46 am

I believe that Galatians. 5:16-26; should be 'walk in the spirit' meaning walk in our spirit not our flesh.

What think you?


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Re: Spirit or spirit?

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:46 pm

The Pure Cambridge Edition of the King James Version uses a capital "S" for the word "Spirit" in the passage in question.

Likewise, the NKJV, Amplified, ASV, CSB, ESV, HSCB, NAB, NASB95, NASB77, NIV84, NIV2011, NLT, NRSV, RSV, and YLT all use a capital "S."

What makes you think that it shouldn't be capitalized?


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Re: Spirit or spirit?

Post by Hill Top » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:02 pm

macca wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:46 am
I believe that Galatians. 5:16-26; should be 'walk in the spirit' meaning walk in our spirit not our flesh.
What think you?
Hi, macca.
As the word "Spirit" is capitalized there, I can't agree with you.
It isn't "our" Spirit, but the Spirit given to us from God.



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Re: Spirit or spirit?

Post by luchnia » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:36 am

macca wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:46 am
I believe that Galatians. 5:16-26; should be 'walk in the spirit' meaning walk in our spirit not our flesh.

What think you?
I would be curious to your rationale. I have read quite a bit of research on this very thing, but not from this text. The one I think has most question is the verses about "praying in the Spirit" which some do believe means man's spirit. There is some controversy over that one.

I think in this light we see Paul was dealing with the Galatian saints, born of God, falling away from God to follow sin (the works of the flesh) and then thinking they could be justified by the law. Looking at the whole chapter it would be hard for me to conclude that this was each person's individual spirit and not the nature of the Holy Spirit that man is to walk by.

Certainly man's spirit must align with the Spirit. Notice where Paul goes on to talk about being "led by the Spirit" and also illustrating the fruits of the Spirit. Maybe this whole concept is the unity and alignment with the Holy Spirit and our spirits working together in our Christian walk for God's purpose bearing the "fruits of the Spirit" by which no law of the flesh can defeat.

I do think there are some places where the use of capitalization of the S in spirit is questionable. I await your thoughts about why you think it should be a small s.


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Re: Spirit or spirit?

Post by branham1965 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:45 am

Hey macca

i heard Dad Hagin teach this and Brother Copeland too.They say the spirit is the recreated human spirit with the life (zoe) and nature of God in it.


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Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:46 am
I believe that Galatians. 5:16-26; should be 'walk in the spirit' meaning walk in our spirit not our flesh.

What think you?



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Re: Spirit or spirit?

Post by branham1965 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:47 am

Hey Roger.

What is the pure Cambridge edition?? +ummm
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Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:46 pm
The Pure Cambridge Edition of the King James Version uses a capital "S" for the word "Spirit" in the passage in question.

Likewise, the NKJV, Amplified, ASV, CSB, ESV, HSCB, NAB, NASB95, NASB77, NIV84, NIV2011, NLT, NRSV, RSV, and YLT all use a capital "S."

What makes you think that it shouldn't be capitalized?



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Re: Spirit or spirit?

Post by macca » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:09 am

branham1965 wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:45 am
Hey macca

i heard Dad Hagin teach this and Brother Copeland too.They say the spirit is the recreated human spirit with the life (zoe) and nature of God in it.


macca wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:46 am
I believe that Galatians. 5:16-26; should be 'walk in the spirit' meaning walk in our spirit not our flesh.

What think you?


Yes Billy, that's what got me thinking.


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Re: Spirit or spirit?

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:37 am

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:46 pm
The Pure Cambridge Edition of the King James Version uses a capital "S" for the word "Spirit" in the passage in question.

Likewise, the NKJV, Amplified, ASV, CSB, ESV, HSCB, NAB, NASB95, NASB77, NIV84, NIV2011, NLT, NRSV, RSV, and YLT all use a capital "S."

What makes you think that it shouldn't be capitalized?
branham1965 wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:47 am
Hey Roger.

What is the pure Cambridge edition?? +ummm



Hi, Billy,

There are multiple lineages of the King James text based upon publishers. The two primary and Crown authorized lines are the Cambridge and Oxford lines, but there are others (that don't share Crown authorization). Each line has some differences in spellings and punctuation from the other lines. Within different printings of each line, there are also different punctuations and spellings.

The Pure Cambridge Edition is the version that is considered to be the best rendition of the King James Version and free from any typographical, spelling, or punctuation error. It is the definitive King James Version as published in 1900 by Cambridge and Collins publishers.

You can learn more about it on this website:
http://www.bibleprotector.com/

And, here is a page containing a chart that compares variations in common editions of the King James and their distinctive differences from the Pure Cambridge Edition.

http://www.bibleprotector.com/editions.htm

Some differences are very minor. Other differences, such as whether or not the word "Spirit" should be capitalized in 1st John 5:8 might make a doctrinal difference for some. And, as such, the Pure Cambridge Edition probably should be consulted when there are questions of spelling and capitalization (such as Macca's question in this thread concerning the correctness of capitalization in Galatians 5:16-26.

Some have noted that the King James Bible was the seventh major English Translation and that the Pure Cambridge Edition is the seventh major authorized edition of the Authorized Text.

Psalm 12:6 King James Version
The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

In other words, the Pure Cambridge Edition is the purest of the editions of the King James Version.


FAITH FOLLOWS LIGHT
The entrance of Thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.
Psalm 119:130 King James Version

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