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Re: The science of sin

Post by luchnia » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:00 am

Hill Top wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:21 pm
luchnia wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:16 pm
That is so true. Also it is true that oak tree branches can die, discontinue to bear, and be cast into the fire and burned!
Could it ever bear anything but more oaks?
What is cast into the fire cannot bear anything but some temporary heat energy before its state is changed.


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Re: The science of sin

Post by Hill Top » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:58 pm

luchnia wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:00 am
What is cast into the fire cannot bear anything but some temporary heat energy before its state is changed.
And so will everyone born of the devil.
Thanks be to God, though, as He has made a way to crucify a former sinner and raise him up "to walk in newness of life". (Rom 6:4)
The "seed" determines the fruit.
The "seed" cannot change from whence it is born.
Your insistence that those born of God's seed can suddenly quit being of that seed is...junk science.



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Re: The science of sin

Post by branham1965 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:16 pm

You fellows glorify sin.You deify it.


Why not praise the Lord Jesus Christ for His divine blood's sanctifying power!!!

Or talk about the Baptism/Infilling of the Holy Ghost ???Or the delivering ,Healing Christ???

IF YOU GLORY YOU BETTER GLORY IN THE LORD..NOT IN SELF OR THE FLESH.

You have it backwards.

Repentance is towards God ,Faith is towards our Lord Jesus Christ.

We did not save ourselves .Jesus did.

HE gets all the praise glory and honor.

Glorying in self is carnality and not holiness.



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Re: The science of sin

Post by luchnia » Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:03 pm

Hill Top wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:58 pm
luchnia wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:00 am
What is cast into the fire cannot bear anything but some temporary heat energy before its state is changed.
And so will everyone born of the devil.
Thanks be to God, though, as He has made a way to crucify a former sinner and raise him up "to walk in newness of life". (Rom 6:4)
The "seed" determines the fruit.
The "seed" cannot change from whence it is born.
Your insistence that those born of God's seed can suddenly quit being of that seed is...junk science.
Not sure I would call what Jesus taught, junk science, but that would be between you and what He taught. What I believe about it is unimportant and irrelevant.


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Re: The science of sin

Post by Hill Top » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:36 pm

luchnia wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:03 pm
Not sure I would call what Jesus taught, junk science, but that would be between you and what He taught. What I believe about it is unimportant and irrelevant.
Jesus didn't teach that fig trees could bear grapes.



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Re: The science of sin

Post by Hill Top » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:46 pm

branham1965 wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:16 pm
You fellows glorify sin.You deify it.
Not at all.
Why not praise the Lord Jesus Christ for His divine blood's sanctifying power!!!
Sanctified, separated, from what?
Sin.
Or talk about the Baptism/Infilling of the Holy Ghost ???Or the delivering ,Healing Christ???
Healed of what?
Sin.
IF YOU GLORY YOU BETTER GLORY IN THE LORD..NOT IN SELF OR THE FLESH.
Amen to that.
You have it backwards.
Repentance is towards God ,
And from sin.
Faith is towards our Lord Jesus Christ.
Our Lord that said the truth would free us from committing sin. (John 8:32-34)
We did not save ourselves .Jesus did.
HE gets all the praise glory and honor.
Amen to that.
Glorying in self is carnality and not holiness.
Thanks be to God for the ability to crucify the old man of carnality and sin.

Are you carnal or holy?



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Re: The science of sin

Post by luchnia » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:15 am

branham1965 wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:16 pm
You fellows glorify sin.You deify it.
Glorify sin? Deify sin? Really? I cannot understand why you would make such a statement, but I suppose you have a reason behind doing so.

If a man doesn't understand sin, how will he stand against sin? A man that does not know what a poison spear is will not be able to raise a shield to prevent it. (Eph 6:10-18)


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Re: The science of sin

Post by branham1965 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:09 pm

NO ONE on here is saying believers should sin or engage in wrongdoing.

Saying that they cannot sin is not Scriptural.

Believers in both testaments sinned.Some times severely.David had Uriah killed and took his wife.

Peter denied the Lord 3 times.He was rebuked to his face by Paul.

Simon in Acts 8 sinned and Peter told him to repent and pray.

Believers who took the Lord's Supper unworthily got sick and even died.
Paul delivered the Corinthian fornicator to Satan for the destruction of the flesh that his spirit might be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.The man later repented.

Your theology is flawed.
Hill Top wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:46 pm
branham1965 wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:16 pm
You fellows glorify sin.You deify it.
Not at all.
Why not praise the Lord Jesus Christ for His divine blood's sanctifying power!!!
Sanctified, separated, from what?
Sin.
Or talk about the Baptism/Infilling of the Holy Ghost ???Or the delivering ,Healing Christ???
Healed of what?
Sin.
IF YOU GLORY YOU BETTER GLORY IN THE LORD..NOT IN SELF OR THE FLESH.
Amen to that.
You have it backwards.
Repentance is towards God ,
And from sin.
Faith is towards our Lord Jesus Christ.
Our Lord that said the truth would free us from committing sin. (John 8:32-34)
We did not save ourselves .Jesus did.
HE gets all the praise glory and honor.
Amen to that.
Glorying in self is carnality and not holiness.
Thanks be to God for the ability to crucify the old man of carnality and sin.

Are you carnal or holy?



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Re: The science of sin

Post by Ironman » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:29 pm

luchnia wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:15 am
branham1965 wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:16 pm
You fellows glorify sin.You deify it.
Glorify sin? Deify sin? Really? I cannot understand why you would make such a statement, but I suppose you have a reason behind doing so.

If a man doesn't understand sin, how will he stand against sin? A man that does not know what a poison spear is will not be able to raise a shield to prevent it. (Eph 6:10-18)
Understand sin?? What a cop out. I knew right from wrong at age 4 or even younger.


Galatians 4: 16, Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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Re: The science of sin

Post by branham1965 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:52 pm

I agree with you Haz.

My Dad would remind me of of it quite often with his belt.


Ironman wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:29 pm
luchnia wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:15 am
branham1965 wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:16 pm
You fellows glorify sin.You deify it.
Glorify sin? Deify sin? Really? I cannot understand why you would make such a statement, but I suppose you have a reason behind doing so.

If a man doesn't understand sin, how will he stand against sin? A man that does not know what a poison spear is will not be able to raise a shield to prevent it. (Eph 6:10-18)
Understand sin?? What a cop out. I knew right from wrong at age 4 or even younger.



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