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Where the word MATE originated.

Post by Ironman » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:24 pm

Today is remembrance day in Australia. At the eleventh day on the eleventh month and the at eleventh hour, we pause for one minutes silence to remember those who died in the first world was.

I learnt today that the Aussie word Mate, originated in the trenches in France where the diggers called each other mate. The word mate means, . . . . "MEET AT THE END."


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Re: Where the word MATE originated.

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Re: Where the word MATE originated.

Post by Hill Top » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:12 pm

Ironman wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:24 pm
Today is remembrance day in Australia. At the eleventh day on the eleventh month and the at eleventh hour, we pause for one minutes silence to remember those who died in the first world was.

I learnt today that the Aussie word Mate, originated in the trenches in France where the diggers called each other mate. The word mate means, . . . . "MEET AT THE END."
Did Australians and New Zealanders fight anywhere besides in the Crimean area?



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Re: Where the word MATE originated.

Post by Ironman » Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:33 am

Hill Top wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:12 pm
Ironman wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:24 pm
Today is remembrance day in Australia. At the eleventh day on the eleventh month and the at eleventh hour, we pause for one minutes silence to remember those who died in the first world was.

I learnt today that the Aussie word Mate, originated in the trenches in France where the diggers called each other mate. The word mate means, . . . . "MEET AT THE END."
Did Australians and New Zealanders fight anywhere besides in the Crimean area?
Most of the men accepted into the army in August 1914 were sent first to Egypt, not Europe, to meet the threat Turkey posed to British interests in the Middle East and the Suez Canal. After four and a half months of training near Cairo, the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps (ANZAC) departed by ship for the Gallipoli peninsula. The ANZACs landed at what became known as ANZAC Cove on 25 April 1915 and established a tenuous foothold on the steep slopes above the beach. During the early days of the campaign, the allies tried to break through Turkish lines, while the Turks tried to drive the allied troops off the peninsula. Attempts on both sides ended in failure and the ensuing stalemate continued for the remainder of 1915. The most successful operation of the campaign was the evacuation of troops on 19 and 20 December, under cover of a comprehensive deception operation. As a result, the Turks were unable to inflict more than a very few casualties on the retreating forces.

Following Gallipoli, Australian forces fought campaigns on the Western Front and in the Middle East. When the AIF divisions arrived in France, the war on the Western Front had long settled into a stalemate, with the opposing armies facing each other from trench systems that extended across Belgium and north-east France, from the English Channel to the Swiss border. The development of machine-guns and artillery favoured defence over attack and compounded the impasse, which lasted until the final months of the war.
While the overall hostile stalemate continued throughout 1916 and 1917, the Australians and other allied armies repeatedly attacked, preceded by massive artillery bombardments intended to cut barbed wire and destroy enemy defences. After these bombardments, waves of attacking infantry emerged from the trenches into no man's land and advanced towards enemy positions. The surviving Germans, protected by deep and heavily reinforced bunkers, were usually able to repel the attackers with machine-gun fire and artillery support from the rear. These attacks often resulted in limited territorial gains followed, in turn, by German counter-attacks. Both sides sustained heavy losses.

In July 1916 Australian infantry were introduced to this type of combat at Fromelles, where they suffered 5,533 casualties in 24 hours. By the end of the year about 40,000 Australians had been killed or wounded on the Western Front. In 1917 a further 76,836 Australians became casualties in battles, such Bullecourt, Messines, and the four-month campaign around Ypres, known as the Battle of Passchendaele.
In March 1918 the German army launched its final offensive of the war, hoping for a decisive victory before the military and industrial strength of the United States could be fully mobilised in support of the allies. The Germans initially met with great success, advancing 64 kilometres past the region of the 1916 Somme battles, before the offensive lost momentum.
Between April and November the stalemate of the preceding years began to give way, as the allies combined infantry, artillery, tanks, and aircraft more effectively, demonstrated in the Australian capture of Hamel spur on 4 July 1918.
The allied offensive, beginning on 8 August at Amiens, also contributed to Australian successes at Mont St Quentin and Péronne and to the capture of the Hindenburg Line. In early October the Australian divisions withdrew from the front for rest and refitting; they were preparing to return when Germany surrendered on 11 November.
Unlike their counterparts in France and Belgium, the Australians in the Middle East fought a mobile war against the Ottoman Empire in conditions completely different from the mud and stagnation of the Western Front. The light horsemen and their mounts had to survive extreme heat, harsh terrain, and water shortages. Nevertheless, casualties were comparatively light, with 1,394 Australians killed or wounded in three years of war. This campaign began in 1916 with Australian troops participating in the defence of the Suez Canal and the allied reconquest of the Sinai peninsular. In the following year Australian and other allied troops advanced into Palestine and captured Gaza and Jerusalem; by 1918 they had occupied Lebanon and Syria. On 30 October 1918 Turkey sued for peace.
Australians also served at sea and in the newly formed flying corps. The Royal Australian Navy (RAN), under the command of the Royal Navy, made a significant contribution early in the war, when HMAS Sydney destroyed the German raider Emden near the Cocos Islands in November 1914.
The First World War was the first armed conflict in which aircraft were used. About 3,000 Australian airmen served in the Middle East and France with the Australian Flying Corps, mainly in observation capacities or providing infantry support.
One of the first airmen to be awarded the Victoria Cross was Lieutenant Frank McNamara in Palestine in March 1917. When flying over enemy lines he noticed his mate, Captain Rutherford, had been brought down with his plane and was about to be captured by the Turks. McNamara, himself wounded, landed and picked up Rutherford, only to overturn in a gully. The pair set fire to the plane to prevent it falling into Turkish hands before returning to Rutherford’s plane, which McNamara managed to start and make good their escape. Despite being weak from loss of blood, McNamara guided the plane back to base. He was subsequently awarded with the Victoria Cross.
Australian women volunteered for service in auxiliary roles, as cooks, nurses, drivers, interpreters, munitions workers, and skilled farm workers. While the government welcomed the service of nurses, it generally rejected offers from women in other professions to serve overseas. Australian nurses served in Egypt, France, Greece, and India, often in trying conditions or close to the front, where they were exposed to shelling and aerial bombardment.
The effect of the war was also felt at home. Families and communities grieved following the loss of so many men, and women increasingly assumed the physical and financial burden of caring for families. Anti-German feeling emerged with the outbreak of the war, and many Germans living in Australia were sent to internment camps. Censorship and surveillance, regarded by many as an excuse to silence political views that had no effect on the outcome of war, increased as the conflict continued. Social division also grew, reaching a climax in the bitterly contested (and unsuccessful) conscription referendums held in 1916 and 1917.
When the war ended, thousands of ex-servicemen, many disabled with physical or emotional wounds, had to be re-integrated into a society keen to consign the war to the past and resume normal life.

http://www.rslnsw.org.au/commemoration/ ... -world-war


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Re: Where the word MATE originated.

Post by branham1965 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:47 pm

I wondered what it meant cobber. :smilecolros:



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Re: Where the word MATE originated.

Post by Hill Top » Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:39 pm

Ironman wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:33 am
Most of the men accepted into the army in August 1914 were sent first to Egypt, not Europe, to meet the threat Turkey posed to British interests in the Middle East and the Suez Canal. After four and a half months of training near Cairo, the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps (ANZAC) departed by ship for the Gallipoli peninsula. The ANZACs landed at what became known as ANZAC Cove on 25 April 1915 and established a tenuous foothold on the steep slopes above the beach. During the early days of the campaign, the allies tried to break through Turkish lines, while the Turks tried to drive the allied troops off the peninsula.

Following Gallipoli, Australian forces fought campaigns on the Western Front and in the Middle East. When the AIF divisions arrived in France, the war on the Western Front had long settled into a stalemate, with the opposing armies facing each other from trench systems that extended across Belgium and north-east France, from the English Channel to the Swiss border. The development of machine-guns and artillery favoured defence over attack and compounded the impasse, which lasted until the final months of the war.
Thank you for the immensely informative post.



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Re: Where the word MATE originated.

Post by Ironman » Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:37 pm

branham1965 wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:47 pm
I wondered what it meant cobber. :smilecolros:
G-Day billy.

cobber – ‘friend’ (often as a mode of address).
This well-known Australian English word probably has its origins in Yiddish chaber, ‘comrade’. It is first recorded in Australian English from the late 19th century, but came to have particular resonance during the First World War through its use by Australian soldiers. :angel:


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