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Re: Jonah

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:13 am

Hill Top wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:59 pm
macca wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:41 pm
Serpent seed. Rubbish.
Hah !
What brought that on?
I've been wondering the same thing?

Macca, why did you bring up the idea of the Serpent Seed regarding this thread?


Acts 10:42-43 King James Version
"And He commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is He which was ordained of God to be the Judge of Quick and Dead. To Him give all the Prophets witness, that through His Name WHOSEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHALL RECEIVE REMISSION OF SINS."

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Re: Jonah

Post by macca » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:21 am

luchnia wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:01 am
macca wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:31 am
Jesus states in the parable of the sower all we need to know about "the seed" It's the word of God.
DNA more rubbish.
If one does not understand the parable of the sower, then they are apt to misunderstand much about God's word, especially how God's seed works.



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Re: Jonah

Post by branham1965 » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:45 pm

There is no legitimate Church on earth that believes the no sin no restoration heresy.

Can this be filed in file 13 where it belongs.



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Re: Jonah

Post by Hill Top » Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:21 pm

macca wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:31 am
Jesus states in the parable of the sower all we need to know about "the seed" It's the word of God.
DNA more rubbish.
And that which is reborn of the Word of God cannot commit sin.
Why?
Because His seed remains in him.



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Re: Jonah

Post by Ironman » Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:38 am

Hill Top wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:21 pm
macca wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:31 am
Jesus states in the parable of the sower all we need to know about "the seed" It's the word of God.
DNA more rubbish.
And that which is reborn of the Word of God cannot commit sin.
Why?
Because His seed remains in him.

Read this again.

1 John 3: 9, Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Dake, . . . . The secret of a proper understanding of this verse is in the word "IN," which means in harmony with or in union with, and not bodily entrance into.


The seed is the Word of God by which a man is born again (1 Peter 1:23; Jas. 1:18). The simple idea is that as long as one remains in union with or in harmony with the seed, or the Word of God, he cannot sin. If he grows cold in his love for God, ceases to pray and keep his spiritual life up to normal he then may be overcome again by sin by transgressing the Word of God (1 John 2:1; 2 Peter 1:5-10.

Dake Bible 1 John notes, 7 fallacies based on 1 John 3:9. page 489.


Galatians 4: 16, Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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Re: Jonah

Post by luchnia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:30 am

Hill Top wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:21 pm
macca wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:31 am
Jesus states in the parable of the sower all we need to know about "the seed" It's the word of God.
DNA more rubbish.
And that which is reborn of the Word of God cannot commit sin.
Why?
Because His seed remains in him.
Agreed and when God's seed doesn't remain in him, it is lights out as he can commit sin.

There are so many scriptures that teach that a saint can fall away to sin it would make for way too large a post. You have chosen not to accept them, yet they are there and for a purpose.

Hebrews chapter 10 would be a good chapter for you to research and ask God why the author made such statements the saved that could return to sin and even to the point of no return to God.


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Re: Jonah

Post by luchnia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:41 am

Ironman wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:38 am
Hill Top wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:21 pm
macca wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:31 am
Jesus states in the parable of the sower all we need to know about "the seed" It's the word of God.
DNA more rubbish.
And that which is reborn of the Word of God cannot commit sin.
Why?
Because His seed remains in him.

Read this again.

1 John 3: 9, Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Dake, . . . . The secret of a proper understanding of this verse is in the word "IN," which means in harmony with or in union with, and not bodily entrance into.


The seed is the Word of God by which a man is born again (1 Peter 1:23; Jas. 1:18). The simple idea is that as long as one remains in union with or in harmony with the seed, or the Word of God, he cannot sin. If he grows cold in his love for God, ceases to pray and keep his spiritual life up to normal he then may be overcome again by sin by transgressing the Word of God (1 John 2:1; 2 Peter 1:5-10.

Dake Bible 1 John notes, 7 fallacies based on 1 John 3:9. page 489.
I think the "if you sin" point simply does not resonate with Mr Hill Top. The 1 Jn 3:9 is like a fire that draws the moth to the flame. One could ask why 1 Jn 3:10 does not bear as much light as verse 9 in this thread? Or verses 14, 15, and 17 penned by the same author?


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Re: Jonah

Post by Hill Top » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:07 pm

Ironman wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:38 am
Read this again.
1 John 3: 9, Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
Dake, . . . . The secret of a proper understanding of this verse is in the word "IN," which means in harmony with or in union with, and not bodily entrance into.
This definition of "in" doesn't change the fact of the seed remaining in the person reborn of God.
Nor does it change the result.
Those with God's seed "as long as one remains in union with or in harmony with the seed, or the Word of God, he cannot sin."
Grapes, with grape seeds in them, cannot bear figs.
Those born of God cannot bear evil fruit.
Thanks be to God !



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Re: Jonah

Post by Hill Top » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:09 pm

luchnia wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:30 am
Agreed and when God's seed doesn't remain in him, it is lights out as he can commit sin.

There are so many scriptures that teach that a saint can fall away to sin it would make for way too large a post. You have chosen not to accept them, yet they are there and for a purpose.

Hebrews chapter 10 would be a good chapter for you to research and ask God why the author made such statements the saved that could return to sin and even to the point of no return to God.
Those who seem to fall away do so because God's seed isn't in them.



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Re: Jonah

Post by Hill Top » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:20 pm

luchnia wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:41 am
I think the "if you sin" point simply does not resonate with Mr Hill Top. The 1 Jn 3:9 is like a fire that draws the moth to the flame. One could ask why 1 Jn 3:10 does not bear as much light as verse 9 in this thread? Or verses 14, 15, and 17 penned by the same author?
"If you sin" doesn't register to those who don't commit sin.
Sin is a part of a past life that has no bearing on me anymore.

Verse 10 does bear light..."In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother."
Whosoever commiteth sin is of the devil.

1 John 3:9 is one of the scriptures twisted by the wicked to accommodate more sin in their futures.
Some install the word "practice" before "sin", in verse 9, insinuating that a murder, lie, or adultery must be committed every month, or every week, or every day to be counted as "of the devil".
One sin is enough to declare one's allegiance.



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