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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by Hill Top » Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:21 am

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:32 pm
Paul understood right from wrong. And, he knew when to forgive and when not to.
Who did Paul ever "not forgive"?
Forgiveness was always available, even to those who ran away from the church.



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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by luchnia » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:17 am

Hill Top wrote:
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If you think that is the case then then Jesus will fail miserably when He carries out justice and judgment according to the NT.
In what regard?
Read Revelations and the war against the Lamb of God. You should find that around chapter 19 and 20. You will find more slain by Jesus than a man can imagine and ALL done in justice and righteousness to the glory of God. God will also kill from heaven. The saints of God will kill many at that time. So to say that killing is not just is to say that God is not just.


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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by luchnia » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:22 am

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Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:43 pm
I also like the Jesus clarifies that the command not to kill in the Ten Commandments is against murder, not such killing as is demanded by righteousness. ("Thou shalt do no murder" — Matt. 19:18.)
When you think about it, there is no command against just killing as it is of God and fully righteous. If one were against killing via justice they would be against God's righteousness and His judgement. God had many killed and many more will be killed if we are to believe God's word.
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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by branham1965 » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:08 am

Alexander the coppersmith was one.Paul said " Alexander the coppersmith did me much harm.;the Lord will repay him according to his deeds." 2 Timothy 4:14.

In 1 Timothy 1:19-20 " keeping faith and a good conscience,which some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith.Among these are Alexander and Hymenaueus,whom i have delivered over to Satan ,so they may be taught not to blaspheme."

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Hill Top wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:21 am
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:32 pm
Paul understood right from wrong. And, he knew when to forgive and when not to.
Who did Paul ever "not forgive"?
Forgiveness was always available, even to those who ran away from the church.



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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:39 pm

Hill Top wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:17 am
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:56 pm

1. "Do you live without sin?"
No.
Then you will suffer the second death.
Not everyone shares your understanding that all sins are equal. Some believe that there are sins "unto death" and sins "not unto death."

And, still others have beliefs concerning whether or not the sin is initiated in the spirit, the soul, or the body. Those that believe this hold that a sin can originate in the soul or the body and the spirit will not be held liable. However, it would be the spirit's job to bring the soul and body into subjection.

It may not be as simple as you seem to be saying that it is.


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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:43 pm

Hill Top wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:17 am
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:56 pm
2. "If the answer is "NO", the punishment you feel is just for "them" is also fitting for you."
No, as I have not committed abortion.
Adam only ate an apple and lost out on the garden of Eden.
You don't need to commit every kind of sin to be counted unworthy of eternal life.
Unless I am mistaken, the Bible does not say that it was an apple.

And, unless I am mistaken, the Bible does not list any other sin that Adam could have committed that would have resulted in his death.

And, unless I am mistaken, the Bible does not say that eating the forbidden fruit must result in "eternal" death or being thrown into the Lake of Fire and Brimstone.

It seems there is a tendency to read a lot into the text, at times.


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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:44 pm

Hill Top wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:17 am
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:56 pm
3. "If you want to deliver a death penalty for others, (Rom 1:32), you had better be unmentioned in verses 24 through 31."
Why?
Because it is written..."The wages of sin is death". (Rom 6:23)
Are there not different kinds of death? Is it not possible that not every sin deserves the same type of death?


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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:52 pm

Hill Top wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:17 am
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:56 pm
Whether or not I do any of the things listed in verse 24-31 doesn't change the fact that a just society (assuming a fair trial, proper evidence, and an unbiased jury) would execute those that commit things that are worthy of death.
Where on earth can you find a "just society"?
Perfectly just? You're not going to find. But that doesn't mean that some cannot be more just than others. Nor does it excuse any society from trying to be as just as it can be. The individuals who refuse to participate in the betterment of the society that they live in might be considered sinful.


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Who can bring a CLEAN thing out of an UNCLEAN? Not one.

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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:53 pm

Hill Top wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:17 am
The power of life and death is not given to the sons of God.
Upon what Bible passages do you base this conclusion?


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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:54 pm

Hill Top wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:17 am
Father has sole control over life.
Upon what Bible passages do you base this conclusion?


Job 14:4 King James Version
Who can bring a CLEAN thing out of an UNCLEAN? Not one.

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