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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by Hill Top » Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:29 pm

luchnia wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:17 am
Read Revelations and the war against the Lamb of God. You should find that around chapter 19 and 20. You will find more slain by Jesus than a man can imagine and ALL done in justice and righteousness to the glory of God. God will also kill from heaven. The saints of God will kill many at that time. So to say that killing is not just is to say that God is not just.
I really couldn't find any mention of saints killing anyone in Rev 19 or 20.
We are discussing the killing of prisoners here, and not the end of the world.



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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by Hill Top » Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:43 pm

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:39 pm
Not everyone shares your understanding that all sins are equal. Some believe that there are sins "unto death" and sins "not unto death."
A sin "not unto death" is one that is repented of and never committed again.
A sin "unto death" is one not repented of.
And, still others have beliefs concerning whether or not the sin is initiated in the spirit, the soul, or the body. Those that believe this hold that a sin can originate in the soul or the body and the spirit will not be held liable. However, it would be the spirit's job to bring the soul and body into subjection.
Sounds like jibberish to me.
James 1:14-15 outlines the commission of sin..."But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death."
Sin originates with lust, but fortunately we see in Gal 5:24..."And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts."
With our lusts having been killed with Christ, they have no power over us.
Thanks be to God.
It may not be as simple as you seem to be saying that it is.
I don't see any wisdom in over analyzing wickedness.
Love God above all else and your neighbor as yourself.
That is how Christians live.



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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by Hill Top » Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:50 pm

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:43 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:17 am
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:56 pm
2. "If the answer is "NO", the punishment you feel is just for "them" is also fitting for you."
No, as I have not committed abortion.
Adam only ate an apple and lost out on the garden of Eden.
You don't need to commit every kind of sin to be counted unworthy of eternal life.
Unless I am mistaken, the Bible does not say that it was an apple.
LOL...OK, I'll substitute "fruit of the tree" for "apple".
And, unless I am mistaken, the Bible does not list any other sin that Adam could have committed that would have resulted in his death.
I believe you are correct.
What is your point?
And, unless I am mistaken, the Bible does not say that eating the forbidden fruit must result in "eternal" death or being thrown into the Lake of Fire and Brimstone.
The garden, like the promised land, were both "pictures" of heaven...a final reward.
We see only one alternative to heaven, a lake of fire.
It seems there is a tendency to read a lot into the text, at times.
It can seem that way.



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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by Hill Top » Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:51 pm

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:44 pm
Are there not different kinds of death? Is it not possible that not every sin deserves the same type of death?
I"ll stick with Romans 6:23 for my answer.



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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by Hill Top » Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:56 pm

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:52 pm
Perfectly just? You're not going to find. But that doesn't mean that some cannot be more just than others. Nor does it excuse any society from trying to be as just as it can be. The individuals who refuse to participate in the betterment of the society that they live in might be considered sinful.
When I think back to the kind of life I dead before becoming a Christian I can see multiple events that could have warranted a death penalty for myself.
Had I received a death penalty, I never would have come to Christ.
You want to exercise the power of life and death, so I will ask...Don't you fear having deprived a man of the chance to turn from sin...like I did?



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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by Hill Top » Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:57 pm

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:53 pm
Upon what Bible passages do you base this conclusion?
Kind of hard to prove a negative.
We are told...Thou shalt not kill."
What else can I say?



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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by Hill Top » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:08 pm

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:54 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:17 am
Father has sole control over life.
Upon what Bible passages do you base this conclusion?
"The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away"...I thought that was a verse somewhere but I couldn't find it.
Just more "reading into it...." I guess.



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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by luchnia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:48 am

Hill Top wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:08 pm
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:54 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:17 am
Father has sole control over life.
Upon what Bible passages do you base this conclusion?
"The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away"...I thought that was a verse somewhere but I couldn't find it.
Just more "reading into it...." I guess.
That is a verse in Job where Job spoke in error blaming God for what satan did to his family.


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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by Hill Top » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:58 pm

luchnia wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:48 am
"The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away"...I thought that was a verse somewhere but I couldn't find it.
Just more "reading into it...." I guess.
That is a verse in Job where Job spoke in error blaming God for what satan did to his family.[/quote]
Thanks for that.



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