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Unto what then were ye baptized

Post by branham1965 » Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:51 pm

What do you think water baptism is about??

What does it mean to you as a believer??

Thanks .



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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized??

Post by Ironman » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:22 pm

branham1965 wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:51 pm
What do you think water baptism is about??

What does it mean to you as a believer??

Thanks .
Hi Billy,


I was baptized by sprinkling on the forhead as a baby according to my parents, I was fully baptized by immersion when I left the Catholic Church, and then the cult I was in, and purchased my own Bible and studied it for myself. Some years later I met Macca and he informed me about Dake, his Bible and His book, "God's Plan for Man," which truly opened my eyes about God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit and all they have done to redeem mankind.

From Dakes Plan for Man book.

Water baptism is a symbol of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and a testimony to the world that the individual has been saved from a life of sin and that he is walking in newness of life. Only personal disciples and followers of Jesus Christ were commanded to be baptised (Matt. 28:19-20; Mark. 38>19-20; Mark 16:15-16; Acts 2: 38-39).


Galatians 4: 16, Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized??

Post by Grandfather » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:36 pm

branham1965 wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:51 pm
What do you think water baptism is about??

What does it mean to you as a believer??

Thanks .
Ah, the study of baptism. I do wish I had access to my books so I could give you the sources.

Water Baptism WAS NOT exclusive to John the Baptist and/or Jesus and his disciples. That is difficult for many to grasp but it was the norm for a Rabbi to baptise their followers by full emersion in water. And even to these “outsiders”, if you will allow me to call them as such, they understand that baptism symbolised a DEATH to their old life and a RESURRECTION to a new life as a follower of their rabbl. Even among them, and probably because it was this death and resurrection, it was not something entered into hastily or casually. It was a public declaration and required a demonstrated change in the way they lived.

So, there you have it. Baptism was not invented by John the Baptist or by Jesus Christ and his disciples. It was already in practice, but it was given its true meaning and purpose when it was “reclaimed” by the Lord and his followers. Which may be the reason it has died out among the present culture, with the exception of the church. Yet even in the church few know the impact of what they are doing. Yes, they can say the right words, they can get the answers on the test correct. But they don’t demonstrate the change of life that the action requires.



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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized??

Post by Ironman » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:41 pm

The first baptisms mentioned in the Bible are those carried out by John the Baptist.

People went out to him from Jerusalem and all Judea and the whole region of the Jordan. Confessing their sins, they were baptized by him in the Jordan River. (Matthew 3:5-6)

The first baptisms into Jesus Christ, carried out after his death and resurrection, were those on the day of Pentecost when 3000 people were baptised (Acts 2:41

Symbolic baptisms are also mentioned in the Old Testament;
1 Cor. 10:1-2.
v 1, Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
v 2, And all were baptized UNTO MOSES in the cloud and in the sea;

1 Peter 3:20-21, v 20, Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
v 21, The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Water baptism was not a requirement in the Old Testament, all these examples do is point forward to the baptism that would be introduced later, in the new testament;


Acts 2:36-38 v 36, Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
37, Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38, Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Galatians 4: 16, Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized??

Post by branham1965 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:10 am

I love hearing-reading good testimonies.

I bet you and Macca gave those heathens trouble at the mines.

The machines you guys used are as big as my home.

Reverend Dake helped save me from destruction in a pernicious cult.

I thank him for that.

Johns Baptism according to the Lord Jesus was not from men but from God Himself see Matthew 21:25;Mark 11:30;Luke 20:4.

I was happy to learn from Reverend Dake that there are 7 Baptism's in the Bible.

1.John's Baptism in the name of God Matthew 3,Luke 3,Acts 1:5,John 1:31-34.

2.Baptism in water by Christ's disciples in the name of the Father John 3:22-23,4:1-2,5:43,10:45

3.Moses Baptism in the cloud and the sea 1 Cor.10:2

4.The Baptism of suffering Luke 12:50

5.Baptism into Christ into His body the church Romans 6:4,1 Corinthians 10:17,12:13,Gal.3:27,Eph.4:5, Col 2:12

6.Christian water baptism in the name of the Father ,and of the Son,and of the Holy Ghost Matthew 28:19,Mark 16:16,Acts 2:38,41,8:12-16,,36-38,9:18,10:48 etc....profuse texts of Scripture given.


7.Baptism in the Holy Spirit Is.11:
2,28-9-12,32:15,....Matthew 3:11,16-17,11:2-6,12:15-21 etc...tons of Scriptures given.


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Ironman wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:22 pm
branham1965 wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:51 pm
What do you think water baptism is about??

What does it mean to you as a believer??

Thanks .
Hi Billy,


I was baptized by sprinkling on the forhead as a baby according to my parents, I was fully baptized by immersion when I left the Catholic Church, and then the cult I was in, and purchased my own Bible and studied it for myself. Some years later I met Macca and he informed me about Dake, his Bible and His book, "God's Plan for Man," which truly opened my eyes about God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit and all they have done to redeem mankind.

From Dakes Plan for Man book.

Water baptism is a symbol of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and a testimony to the world that the individual has been saved from a life of sin and that he is walking in newness of life. Only personal disciples and followers of Jesus Christ were commanded to be baptised (Matt. 28:19-20; Mark. 38>19-20; Mark 16:15-16; Acts 2: 38-39).



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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized??

Post by Hill Top » Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:41 pm

branham1965 wrote:
Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:10 am
I love hearing-reading good testimonies.

I bet you and Macca gave those heathens trouble at the mines.

The machines you guys used are as big as my home.

Reverend Dake helped save me from destruction in a pernicious cult.

I thank him for that.

Johns Baptism according to the Lord Jesus was not from men but from God Himself see Matthew 21:25;Mark 11:30;Luke 20:4.

I was happy to learn from Reverend Dake that there are 7 Baptism's in the Bible.

1.John's Baptism in the name of God Matthew 3,Luke 3,Acts 1:5,John 1:31-34.

2.Baptism in water by Christ's disciples in the name of the Father John 3:22-23,4:1-2,5:43,10:45

3.Moses Baptism in the cloud and the sea 1 Cor.10:2

4.The Baptism of suffering Luke 12:50

5.Baptism into Christ into His body the church Romans 6:4,1 Corinthians 10:17,12:13,Gal.3:27,Eph.4:5, Col 2:12

6.Christian water baptism in the name of the Father ,and of the Son,and of the Holy Ghost Matthew 28:19,Mark 16:16,Acts 2:38,41,8:12-16,,36-38,9:18,10:48 etc....profuse texts of Scripture given.


7.Baptism in the Holy Spirit Is.11:
2,28-9-12,32:15,....Matthew 3:11,16-17,11:2-6,12:15-21 etc...tons of Scriptures given.
You didn't mention the "baptism with fire". (Matt 3:11)



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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized??

Post by Hill Top » Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:48 pm

Ironman wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:22 pm

Water baptism is a symbol of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and a testimony to the world that the individual has been saved from a life of sin and that he is walking in newness of life. Only personal disciples and followers of Jesus Christ were commanded to be baptised (Matt. 28:19-20; Mark. 38>19-20; Mark 16:15-16; Acts 2: 38-39).
Some see baptism as symbolic, but I see the actuality of our death, burial, and being raised with Christ to walk in newness of life.
Our immersion into Christ, and into His suffering, is the only way for His blood to wash us of our past sins.
It happens when we are in Him on the cross.

Without baptism, we cannot kill the old man and be reborn.
It is written..."And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts." (Gal 5:24)
I believe that.



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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized??

Post by branham1965 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:51 pm

Thank you for that.

The Baptism of fire.


What is this Baptism???


It has been debated by scholars.Some say it is the Fire of the Holy Ghost

and others say the Fire of Eternal Judgement.


What say ye???



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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized??

Post by branham1965 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:12 pm

Water Baptism is neglected by many today.

Many Protestants today make it a hit or miss proposition.

the Lord Jesus and His Apostles put GREAT emphasis on Water Baptism for believers.

Matthew 28:18-20;Mark 16:15-16.


Acts 2:38,Chapters 8,9,10,19,22.

There is no such thing in the New Testament as an unbaptized Christian.


Hill Top wrote:
Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:48 pm
Ironman wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:22 pm

Water baptism is a symbol of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and a testimony to the world that the individual has been saved from a life of sin and that he is walking in newness of life. Only personal disciples and followers of Jesus Christ were commanded to be baptised (Matt. 28:19-20; Mark. 38>19-20; Mark 16:15-16; Acts 2: 38-39).
Some see baptism as symbolic, but I see the actuality of our death, burial, and being raised with Christ to walk in newness of life.
Our immersion into Christ, and into His suffering, is the only way for His blood to wash us of our past sins.
It happens when we are in Him on the cross.

Without baptism, we cannot kill the old man and be reborn.
It is written..."And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts." (Gal 5:24)
I believe that.



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Re: Unto what then were ye baptized??

Post by luchnia » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:58 am

branham1965 wrote:
Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:12 pm
Water Baptism is neglected by many today.

Many Protestants today make it a hit or miss proposition.

the Lord Jesus and His Apostles put GREAT emphasis on Water Baptism for believers.

Matthew 28:18-20;Mark 16:15-16.


Acts 2:38,Chapters 8,9,10,19,22.

There is no such thing in the New Testament as an unbaptized Christian.


Hill Top wrote:
Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:48 pm
Ironman wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:22 pm

Water baptism is a symbol of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and a testimony to the world that the individual has been saved from a life of sin and that he is walking in newness of life. Only personal disciples and followers of Jesus Christ were commanded to be baptised (Matt. 28:19-20; Mark. 38>19-20; Mark 16:15-16; Acts 2: 38-39).
Some see baptism as symbolic, but I see the actuality of our death, burial, and being raised with Christ to walk in newness of life.
Our immersion into Christ, and into His suffering, is the only way for His blood to wash us of our past sins.
It happens when we are in Him on the cross.

Without baptism, we cannot kill the old man and be reborn.
It is written..."And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts." (Gal 5:24)
I believe that.
When was the thief on the cross water baptized?


Word up!

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