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Re: How could Jesus not make a lot of money? posted DBD

Post by bibleman » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:52 am

branham1965 wrote:
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Jesus thought a lot of Saint John to have him take her in and care for her.
Yes he did.


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Re: How could Jesus not make a lot of money? posted DBD

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How could Jesus the handyman not make a lot of money?

He installs a door for someone. Well did he do a GREAT job at a great price, OR a bad job at a high price? I think the answer is GREAT job GREAT price.

The person he installed the door for is so impressed they tell everybody OR they are mad at his terrible work and bad mouthed him all over town? I think the answer is they told everybody.

Result Jesus has more work than he can take care of and hires many workers moves into a large building and becomes very rich. Rich enough to provide for his mom for the rest of her life and to retire at 30 years of age and begin his ministry.

Agree or Disagree?
Oh, indeed he may have been the best carpenter ever. But your story makes a lot of assumptions. Why does the "best every" have more work than he can take care of? You are assuming that. You are also assuming that he hires many workers, moves into a large building. You assuming that he is making a tidy profit (becoming rich) when he might be doing work for those that can't afford to pay or he might be giving his earnings to the poor. Finally I wonder why, when hanging on the cross the Bible says he looked at John and said behold your mother (when she was not his mother) and that he, John, took her into his house, not back to her big house. Yeah, the best carpenter ever... i might agree with, the rest of the story.... not so much



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Re: How could Jesus not make a lot of money? posted DBD

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bibleman wrote:
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How could Jesus the handyman not make a lot of money?

He installs a door for someone. Well did he do a GREAT job at a great price, OR a bad job at a high price? I think the answer is GREAT job GREAT price.

The person he installed the door for is so impressed they tell everybody OR they are mad at his terrible work and bad mouthed him all over town? I think the answer is they told everybody.

Result Jesus has more work than he can take care of and hires many workers moves into a large building and becomes very rich. Rich enough to provide for his mom for the rest of her life and to retire at 30 years of age and begin his ministry.

Agree or Disagree?
When you put it that way, I don't see how anyone can argue about it.
I guess another question might be whether or not carpenters were paid fairly during that time. Especially, Jewish carpenters under Roman occupation?


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Re: How could Jesus not make a lot of money? posted DBD

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And it assumes the position that Jesus would have wanted to make a lot of money. Just because somone COULD do something does not mean it is the RIGHT thing to do.



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Re: How could Jesus not make a lot of money? posted DBD

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And it assumes the position that Jesus would have wanted to make a lot of money. Just because somone COULD do something does not mean it is the RIGHT thing to do.
What is wrong with making a lot of money?


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Re: How could Jesus not make a lot of money? posted DBD

Post by Grandfather » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:22 pm

bibleman wrote:
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And it assumes the position that Jesus would have wanted to make a lot of money. Just because somone COULD do something does not mean it is the RIGHT thing to do.
What is wrong with making a lot of money?
Who said there was anything wrong with it? Another assumption on your part that has no basis in anything other than your presuppositions.



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Re: How could Jesus not make a lot of money? posted DBD

Post by bibleman » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:41 am

Grandfather wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:22 pm
bibleman wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:27 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:20 pm
And it assumes the position that Jesus would have wanted to make a lot of money. Just because somone COULD do something does not mean it is the RIGHT thing to do.
What is wrong with making a lot of money?
Who said there was anything wrong with it? Another assumption on your part that has no basis in anything other than your presuppositions.
You alluded to it in your post.


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Re: How could Jesus not make a lot of money? posted DBD

Post by Grandfather » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:16 am

bibleman wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:41 am
Grandfather wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:22 pm
bibleman wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:27 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:20 pm
And it assumes the position that Jesus would have wanted to make a lot of money. Just because somone COULD do something does not mean it is the RIGHT thing to do.
What is wrong with making a lot of money?
Who said there was anything wrong with it? Another assumption on your part that has no basis in anything other than your presuppositions.

You alluded to it in your post.
I’m sorry you misunderstood the post. I believe there is a difference between being able to do something and that something being the proper, correct, right thing to do. Paul said that all things were lawful for me, meaning he COULD do them, yet not all things were permissible, meaning they were not the RIGHT thing for him to do.

Again, the original permise of your original post was “How could Jesus not make a lot of money?” I am simply pointing out a few of the assumptions and presuppositions one must have in order to make that assumption.

Assumption 1 - Great job at a great price... maybe that “great price” was simply the amount Jesus needed to make it to tomorrow... as in give us this day our daily bread.

Assumption 2 - Everyone told everyone... there is no evidence

Assumption 3 - More work than he could handle. Again, no evidence. It assumes that he never turned down a job, or perhaps he spread the wealth and referred work to other carpenters

Assumption 4 - Hired more workers. Maybe he trained them to work for themselves.

Assumption 4b - Hired more workers. Using your own story, who do you want fixing your door Jesus himself, or one of his workers? Perhaps those he worked for only wanted Jesus himself to do the work.

Assumption 5 - Becomes rich. Here you assume he kept the money, perhaps he gave it all away. Perhaps he purchased slaves and set them free. Perhaps he fed the poor, housed the homeless, clothed the naked.

So, while it is possible he became rich, the Bible is noticable silent on that subject. While your idea may be true, there are a lot of assumptions that have to be made to make it so.



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Re: How could Jesus not make a lot of money? posted DBD

Post by bibleman » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:33 am

Grandfather wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:16 am
bibleman wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:41 am
Grandfather wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:22 pm
bibleman wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:27 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:20 pm
And it assumes the position that Jesus would have wanted to make a lot of money. Just because somone COULD do something does not mean it is the RIGHT thing to do.
What is wrong with making a lot of money?
Who said there was anything wrong with it? Another assumption on your part that has no basis in anything other than your presuppositions.

You alluded to it in your post.
I’m sorry you misunderstood the post. I believe there is a difference between being able to do something and that something being the proper, correct, right thing to do. Paul said that all things were lawful for me, meaning he COULD do them, yet not all things were permissible, meaning they were not the RIGHT thing for him to do.

Again, the original permise of your original post was “How could Jesus not make a lot of money?” I am simply pointing out a few of the assumptions and presuppositions one must have in order to make that assumption.

Assumption 1 - Great job at a great price... maybe that “great price” was simply the amount Jesus needed to make it to tomorrow... as in give us this day our daily bread.

Assumption 2 - Everyone told everyone... there is no evidence

Assumption 3 - More work than he could handle. Again, no evidence. It assumes that he never turned down a job, or perhaps he spread the wealth and referred work to other carpenters

Assumption 4 - Hired more workers. Maybe he trained them to work for themselves.

Assumption 4b - Hired more workers. Using your own story, who do you want fixing your door Jesus himself, or one of his workers? Perhaps those he worked for only wanted Jesus himself to do the work.

Assumption 5 - Becomes rich. Here you assume he kept the money, perhaps he gave it all away. Perhaps he purchased slaves and set them free. Perhaps he fed the poor, housed the homeless, clothed the naked.

So, while it is possible he became rich, the Bible is noticable silent on that subject. While your idea may be true, there are a lot of assumptions that have to be made to make it so.
Maybe! Good thoughts however.


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Re: How could Jesus not make a lot of money? posted DBD

Post by branham1965 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:22 pm

The Lord Jesus warns that riches can be dangerous.


The rich man in Luke 16 was cast into hell for ignoring Lazarus the way he did.He could have helped him.But he did not.

Another rich man tore down his barns to build bigger ones and said i am rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing God called him a fool and he lost his soul.


Matthew 25:31-46 Jesus says the goats did not help those who were in need and were cast into hell.

1 Timothy 6 and James 2 are a few more texts on riches.

Saying that i sure wish i had more money.I am curious how i would act if i had some.



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