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Is there a literal Hell?

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Re: Is there a literal Hell?

Post by bibleman » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:44 am

rstrats wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:41 am
bibleman wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:45 am
Is there a literal Hell?

What do you mean by "Hell"?
Hell the literal place as is located in the heart of the Earth.


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Re: Is there a literal Hell?

Post by Ironman » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:33 pm

bibleman wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:08 am
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:40 pm
bibleman wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:29 pm
ON Facebook there are are already 27 votes saying YES to a literal hell and NO votes saying there is not a literal Hell.

Here on this board there are 5 votes saying YES to a literal hell and 1 vote saying there is not a literal Hell.

So it would seem the folks on facebook Dake Bible Discussion are more biblical than those who have voted on the Dake Bible Board.
I wonder if my posts would be better received on Facebook? :mrgreen:
I think they would. It is just on facebook post have to be kept to a shorter and more concise framework. People don't read long post anymore. If you have already stopped and are not reading this sentence then you would do well on facebook.
people on facebook are not more biblical than people on here, thats only your opinion. People on facebook are lazy. If they dont like reading long posts they sure would get boored with Dakes writings about hell;

By F. J. Dake, God's plan for man;



written in
the Scriptures.

Hell is mentioned in many dozens of Scriptures throughout the Bible. There are
five departments in the underworld of departed Spirits, not one of these places
is associated with or is the grave where bodies are buried.

These five departments are;



One). Paradise;

In Luke 16:19-31; 23:43, we have pictured total comfort and water in this
prison because the rich man saw Lazarus afar off in comfort and bliss and asked
him to dip his finger in water and cool his tongue (Luke 16:19-31).



This was the abode of the righteous souls from Adam after dying and leaving
their bodies, being held captive by the devil against their wills till Christ's
death and resurrection (Heb. 2:14-15; Eph. 4:7-11).Before Jesus Christ conqured
the power of death and Hell, the devil had these powers. (Col. 2:14-17; Heb.
2:14-15; Rev. 1:18).



It was into this prison the repentant thief went with Christ the day they both
died (Luke 23:43). This prison is located in the heart of the Earth as is clear
from (Matt. 12:40 and Eph. 4:7-11).



Jesus not only went into this prison but He also went into another prison,
"Tartarus," and preached to the fallen angels being held there in
their own special prison, "And the angels which kept not their first
estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains
under darkness unto the judgment of the great day." (Jude 1:6). "For
if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and
delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;" (2
Peter 2:4).



Jesus having conqured Hell and death and the grave during His crucifiction and
during the three days He was in the underworld, He captured all the righteous
souls that were in Paradise and took them to Heaven when He ascended on high
(Eph. 4:7-11).



Jesus now has the keys to Hell and death (Rev. 1:18).



When we check every Scripture provided in God's Word, we cannot believe Jesus
did not go to Hell, preach to the SPIRITS there, and He also captured all the
righteous souls, Abraham, Moses, Isac, David, and all the others rightious
souls that were in Paradise and took them to Heaven when He ascended on high.



The five departments of Hell are;



One). Paradise, which we are speaking of here;



In Luke 16:19-31; 23:43, we have pictured total comfort and water in this
prison because the rich man saw Lazarus afar off in comfort and bliss and asked
him to dip his finger in water and cool his tongue (Luke 16:19-31). This was
the abode of the righteous souls from Adam after dying and leaving their
bodies, being held captive by the devil against their wills till Christ's death
and resurrection (Heb. 2:14-15; Eph. 4:7-11). Before Jesus Christ conqured the
power of death and Hell, the devil had these powers. (Col. 2:14-17; Heb.
2:14-15; Rev. 1:18).

It was into this prison the repentant thief went with Christ the day they both
died (Luke 23:43). This prison is located in the heart of the Earth as is clear
from Matt. 12:40 and Eph. 4:7-11. Jesus not only went into this prison but He
also went into another prison, "Tartarus," and preached to the fallen
angels being held there in their own special prison. Jesus having conqured Hell
and death and the grave during His crucifiction and during the three days He
was in the underworld, He captured all the righteous souls that were in
Paradise and took them to Heaven when He ascended on high (Eph. 4:7-11). Jesus
now has the keys to Hell and death (Rev. 1:18). Rightious souls who die now no
longer go here. They go straight to Heaven when they die.



Two). Tartarus; This prison is the special prison for the fallen angels that
sinned both before and after the flood. There is nothing recorded in Scripture
that teaches demons or human beings ever go into this prison. In these passages
it is clear that there is a real Hell that is not the grave and that Spirit
beings are confined in chains until judgment (1 Pet. 3:19; 2 Pet. 2:4; Jude
6-7).



Three). Hell itself; (Matt. 16:18; Luke 16:19-31). This is the torment part in
the unseen world and was, still is, and will yet be the abode of all the wicked
souls and spirits of men from Able to the end of the Millennium. Then, at this
time all the wicked will be liberated out of this prison and will be given
their own immortal bodies and be judged before being cast into the "lake
of fire" forever (Rev. 20:11-15; 21:8).



Four). The Bottomless Pit or Abyss is the abode or prison of demons and certain
angelic beings. No human being is ever thrown into the abyss. It is a very deep
chasm in the lower parts of the Earth. It is translated "deep" (Luke
8:26-31; Romans 10:7) and "Bottomless Pit" in Rev. 9:1-3, 11; 11:7;
17:8; 20:1-10). All these Scriptures prove that there are prisons in the lower
parts of the Earth for departed sinning spirits, and they are not and could
never be the same as a grave on the surface of the Earth.



And Five). The Lake of Fire, is the eternal Hell and perdition of wicked men,
demons, fallen angels, and all rebellious creatures of all ages who have ever
rebelled against God, and who have refused to repent when they could have. It
is called "The Gehenna of Fire" and is always translated Hell (Matt.
5:22, 29, 30; 10:28; 18:9; 23:15, 33; Mark 9:43-45, 47; Luke 12:5; James 3:6).
This prison is also called "the second death, which is the lake of
fire" (Rev. 2:11; 20:6, 14). This final Hell was prepared for the devil
and all his angels (Matt. 25:41-46), and for all other rebells, and it is
ETERNAL in duration (Rev. 14:9-14; 20:10-15; Isa. 66:22-24; Matt. 25:46). There
is no record in Scripture of anyone being the lake of fire at present.
Scripture does show that the beast and the false prophet will be the first to
be cast into it. This will happen before the Millennium (Rev. 19:20). They will
still be there 1,000 years later when the devil and all other rebels will be
cast into it (Rev. 20:10-15).



Scripture also teaches that there will be degrees of punishment in Hell as far
as remorse and torment of the conscience is concerned (Matt. 10:15; 11:22;
12:41; 23:14; Mark 6:11; 12:40; Luke 10:14; 11:31, 32; 20:47).


These degrees of punishment will be because of the kind of sins
committed by one that were not committed by another. No man will be punished or
could have remorse over something he did not do. They will all regret rebelling
against God and man and failing to believe in Jesus, and repenting of sin.





In the near future men on Earth will be able to look into a real burning
Hell under the Earth. This is plainly stated in Isa. 66:22-24 where the prophet
predicts that all natural men in the New earth will be able to look into Hell
upon the men that have sinned against God.


Rev. 14:9-11 also proves that men will be tormented in the presence of
God and angels forever. These passages are literal and should be understood
just as they read.





God forces no one to obey
Him.


Men can and must freely choose to love and
obey God to receive all of His promised blessings. If they choose to obey the
will reap all the promised blessings, if they choose to disobey, to rebel, to
sin, they will reap the promised curses.


God created hell for the devil, his angels and
his rebel followers.


When its all done and dusted men will be able to
look into Hell for ever and see those there suffering in eternal flames if they
want to see. It will be a good reminder of where one will end up if one chooses
to fall. Hell will be an eternal monument.


It is plainly stated in Isiah 66:22-24, where
the prophet predicts that all natural men on the New earth will be able to look
into Hell upon men who have FREELY CHOSEN to sin and rebel against God.
Revelation 14:9-11 also proves that men will be tormented in the presence of
God and His faithful angels forever. These are literal passages and should be
understood just as they are read.


Galatians 4: 16, Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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Re: Is there a literal Hell?

Post by bibleman » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:14 pm

Ironman wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:33 pm

people on facebook are not more biblical than people on here, thats only your opinion. People on facebook are lazy.

Well my friend Harry, how would you know?

You said you are not on facebook, so how would you know?


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Re: Is there a literal Hell?

Post by Ironman » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:24 pm

bibleman wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:14 pm
Ironman wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:33 pm

people on facebook are not more biblical than people on here, thats only your opinion. People on facebook are lazy.

Well my friend Harry, how would you know?

You said you are not on facebook, so how would you know?
I know because you yourself said;
"It is just on facebook post have to be kept to a shorter and more concise framework. people don't read longposts any more. If you have already stopped and are not reading this sentence then you would do well on facebook."
.

If they get bored reading long posts, I'm surprised they read the Bible.


Galatians 4: 16, Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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Re: Is there a literal Hell?

Post by bibleman » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:47 pm

Ironman wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:24 pm
bibleman wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:14 pm
Ironman wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:33 pm

people on facebook are not more biblical than people on here, thats only your opinion. People on facebook are lazy.

Well my friend Harry, how would you know?

You said you are not on facebook, so how would you know?
I know because you yourself said;
"It is just on facebook post have to be kept to a shorter and more concise framework. people don't read longposts any more. If you have already stopped and are not reading this sentence then you would do well on facebook."
.

If they get bored reading long posts, I'm surprised they read the Bible.
That same thing applies here as well. When people post LONG post they don't get read and don't get much of a response.

It is not that people are lazy as you suggest, it is people have their own set of interest. AND when you are I post somehting then it may interest them and they read or it may not interest them and they don't read.

Then too people have only so much time and are not able to spend a lot of time reading other peoples ideas... they have their own interest.

AND many people read the Bible for sure! BUT they don't have time to read YOUR or MY comments on the Bible.

As to facebook it is what you make it. My face book is filled with godly friends who love Jesus and love the Word of God. BUT if you were a worldly person then you would have worldly friends.

If you were on facebook and you choose bad friends then you would have a bad experience BUT if you choose GOOD friends then you would have a GREAT experience.


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Re: Is there a literal Hell?

Post by branham1965 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:44 am

Hey Haz.

The posts were more brief.But there were disagreements on there.

Some guy jumped off on macca so i posted to the guy.

Maybe it is different now.



Ironman wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:24 pm
bibleman wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:14 pm
Ironman wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:33 pm

people on facebook are not more biblical than people on here, thats only your opinion. People on facebook are lazy.

Well my friend Harry, how would you know?

You said you are not on facebook, so how would you know?
I know because you yourself said;
"It is just on facebook post have to be kept to a shorter and more concise framework. people don't read longposts any more. If you have already stopped and are not reading this sentence then you would do well on facebook."
.

If they get bored reading long posts, I'm surprised they read the Bible.



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Re: Is there a literal Hell?

Post by rstrats » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:47 am

Ironman,
re: "'Rev. 14:9-11 also proves that men will be tormented in the presence of God and angels forever.'"

I don't see where those verses prove or say that. While they do say that there will be torment in fire and brimstone, they don't say that the torment will continue forever, i.e., never end. They also say that there will be no rest day or night. But they don't say for how long that will last.



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Re: Is there a literal Hell?

Post by luchnia » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:17 pm

rstrats wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:47 am
Ironman,
re: "'Rev. 14:9-11 also proves that men will be tormented in the presence of God and angels forever.'"

I don't see where those verses prove or say that. While they do say that there will be torment in fire and brimstone, they don't say that the torment will continue forever, i.e., never end. They also say that there will be no rest day or night. But they don't say for how long that will last.
dat be true...a lot of questions can be asked of those scriptures. The smoke may go up forever, but is that for the same torments or torments upon various individuals? Scripture is never specific on certain things such as saying, "These same individuals will be tormented forever." There are so many things we don't know and all we can do is assume.

No doubt, not a good place to be. Will a sinner be tormented in the "degree" in which the sin was committed? Will the length of time for individual torment be equal to the time that the evil was committed? How will the judgment be passed? I could go on and on with this.

Revelation 20 has some interesting verses. We do see the terms forever and ever mentioned pertaining the devil, beast, and false prophet. I think there is a much bigger picture and a much more detailed one than we have.


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Re: Is there a literal Hell?

Post by rstrats » Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:18 pm

Luchnia,
re: "We do see the terms forever and ever mentioned pertaining the devil, beast, and false prophet."

And as the KJV has it, not even the beast and false prophet are assigned that fate.
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Re: Is there a literal Hell?

Post by branham1965 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:21 pm

Like death it is horrifying thought to me.

It has caused great controversy and pain.

We know in part and prophesy in part.

But i do believe there is a Heaven to gain and a Hell to shun.



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