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Grandfather wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:31 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:26 pm
Grandfather wrote:
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I didn’t say tither’s were better off. I said you are entitled to your opinion.

I think Mark Zuckerburg, Jeff Bezos to name a few are very well off. And I haven’t seen anything to suggest they tithe.
Well rather than keeping us all guessing... tell us: "Are Christian tithers better off that Christian non-tithers?"
I have no idea, how do you define “better off?”

What I do know is this, if the number of people that say they tithe actually tithed, the church might be a better place.
It would certainty have more money to win the lost with for sure.


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bibleman wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:44 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:31 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:26 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:31 pm
I didn’t say tither’s were better off. I said you are entitled to your opinion.

I think Mark Zuckerburg, Jeff Bezos to name a few are very well off. And I haven’t seen anything to suggest they tithe.
Well rather than keeping us all guessing... tell us: "Are Christian tithers better off that Christian non-tithers?"
I have no idea, how do you define “better off?”

What I do know is this, if the number of people that say they tithe actually tithed, the church might be a better place.
It would certainty have more money to win the lost with for sure.
Do you really think God would allow a lack of money to inhibit the conversion of the lost?
I don't.
Paul converted the jailer and his household at Thyatira while he was in prison !



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Hill Top wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:52 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:44 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:31 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:26 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:31 pm
I didn’t say tither’s were better off. I said you are entitled to your opinion.

I think Mark Zuckerburg, Jeff Bezos to name a few are very well off. And I haven’t seen anything to suggest they tithe.
Well rather than keeping us all guessing... tell us: "Are Christian tithers better off that Christian non-tithers?"
I have no idea, how do you define “better off?”

What I do know is this, if the number of people that say they tithe actually tithed, the church might be a better place.
It would certainty have more money to win the lost with for sure.
Do you really think God would allow a lack of money to inhibit the conversion of the lost?
I don't.
Paul converted the jailer and his household at Thyatira while he was in prison !
Never said that just simply that the church could win more souls with a bigger budget of giving.

Undoubtly you have never pastored a church.


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bibleman wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:49 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:52 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:44 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:31 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:26 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:31 pm
I didn’t say tither’s were better off. I said you are entitled to your opinion.

I think Mark Zuckerburg, Jeff Bezos to name a few are very well off. And I haven’t seen anything to suggest they tithe.
Well rather than keeping us all guessing... tell us: "Are Christian tithers better off that Christian non-tithers?"
I have no idea, how do you define “better off?”

What I do know is this, if the number of people that say they tithe actually tithed, the church might be a better place.
It would certainty have more money to win the lost with for sure.
Do you really think God would allow a lack of money to inhibit the conversion of the lost?
I don't.
Paul converted the jailer and his household at Thyatira while he was in prison !
Never said that just simply that the church could win more souls with a bigger budget of giving.
It did seem like you inferred it.
"More money more won souls".
Undoubtly you have never pastored a church.
Never have.
But I wouldn't go about reinstituting OT Laws in order to survive, if I had.



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Hill Top wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:13 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:56 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:08 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:49 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:52 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:44 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:31 pm


I have no idea, how do you define “better off?”

What I do know is this, if the number of people that say they tithe actually tithed, the church might be a better place.
It would certainty have more money to win the lost with for sure.
Do you really think God would allow a lack of money to inhibit the conversion of the lost?
I don't.
Paul converted the jailer and his household at Thyatira while he was in prison !
Never said that just simply that the church could win more souls with a bigger budget of giving.
It did seem like you inferred it.
"More money more won souls".
Undoubtly you have never pastored a church.
Never have.
But I wouldn't go about reinstituting OT Laws in order to survive, if I had.
You are really speaking from a position of ignorance.
Would you also like to give instruction on how to build a nuceluar power plant?
I don’t think you have ever done that either.
If the instructions for building a reactor are in the bible, and God's word says to build one, I would do it.
Kinda' the antithesis of tithing.
His word doesn't say to tithe, or instruct other to teach tithing.
To the contrary, His word says we are dead to the Law.
The body of Christ naturally provides for the necessities of their bishops, and their families.
They also do what is necessary for providing for church growth.
We used to do furniture moving and hauling loads with our trucks.
You said: “His word doesn't say to tithe, or instruct other to teach tithing“

What does Matthew 23:23 and Matthew 28:18-20 say?

We both know that both of those passages says exactly what you say the Bible does NOT say.


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Tithing unto the Lord in your local assembly is the best way Christians can honour God with their finances.
My wife and I proved it, what we lacked in other areas God supplied our needs.



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macca wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:51 am
Tithing unto the Lord in your local assembly is the best way Christians can honour God with their finances.
My wife and I proved it, what we lacked in other areas God supplied our needs.
So very true. I am amazed at how so-called Christians fight supporting the work of the Lord.

When my wife and I were very young with very little income, we still tithed and like you God always provided. And today after over 50 years of tithing, God has blessed us beyond measure.


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bibleman wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:13 am
Hill Top wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:13 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:56 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:08 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:49 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:52 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:44 pm


It would certainty have more money to win the lost with for sure.
Do you really think God would allow a lack of money to inhibit the conversion of the lost?
I don't.
Paul converted the jailer and his household at Thyatira while he was in prison !
Never said that just simply that the church could win more souls with a bigger budget of giving.
It did seem like you inferred it.
"More money more won souls".
Undoubtly you have never pastored a church.
Never have.
But I wouldn't go about reinstituting OT Laws in order to survive, if I had.
You are really speaking from a position of ignorance.
Would you also like to give instruction on how to build a nuceluar power plant?
I don’t think you have ever done that either.
If the instructions for building a reactor are in the bible, and God's word says to build one, I would do it.
Kinda' the antithesis of tithing.
His word doesn't say to tithe, or instruct other to teach tithing.
To the contrary, His word says we are dead to the Law.
The body of Christ naturally provides for the necessities of their bishops, and their families.
They also do what is necessary for providing for church growth.
We used to do furniture moving and hauling loads with our trucks.
You said: “His word doesn't say to tithe, or instruct other to teach tithing“

What does Matthew 23:23 and Matthew 28:18-20 say?

We both know that both of those passages says exactly what you say the Bible does NOT say.
Did you notice who Jesus was speaking to in Matt 23?
Did you notice that the teaching given the hypocritical Pharisees wasn't intended for His disciples in Matt 28?

Did Jesus also command circumcision for your church members?
Did Jesus' command to not visit the Gentiles apply to us? (Matt 10:5)
We have been freed form the Law, and our bishops are to be treated with the love we are to have for our brothers.
Frankly, 10% isn't enough for how much I have loved my pastor.



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bibleman wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:12 am
macca wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:51 am
Tithing unto the Lord in your local assembly is the best way Christians can honour God with their finances.
My wife and I proved it, what we lacked in other areas God supplied our needs.
So very true. I am amazed at how so-called Christians fight supporting the work of the Lord.

When my wife and I were very young with very little income, we still tithed and like you God always provided. And today after over 50 years of tithing, God has blessed us beyond measure.
I question the assumption that Christians are fighting against supporting the work of Lord because they are not “tithers”

I know of plenty of cheerful givers who give more than 10%, but do not consider themselves “tithers”. They do so because TITHING is not found taught in the New Testament.



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Grandfather wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:15 am
bibleman wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:12 am
macca wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:51 am
Tithing unto the Lord in your local assembly is the best way Christians can honour God with their finances.
My wife and I proved it, what we lacked in other areas God supplied our needs.
So very true. I am amazed at how so-called Christians fight supporting the work of the Lord.

When my wife and I were very young with very little income, we still tithed and like you God always provided. And today after over 50 years of tithing, God has blessed us beyond measure.
I question the assumption that Christians are fighting against supporting the work of Lord because they are not “tithers”

I know of plenty of cheerful givers who give more than 10%, but do not consider themselves “tithers”. They do so because TITHING is not found taught in the New Testament.
A lot of people question the adverse affects of non-tithers. I feel that the person themselves is most harmed by not invoking the Blessings of tithing. And then too the work of the Lord is hampered by those who do not support it. BUT I guess that would just have to be one of those things where we would disagree.

As to tithing NOT be found in the NT... In fact it is.
Jesus taught NT tithing in Matthew 23:23
And Paul taught tithing in Hebrews 7:8

BUT again, I know you disagree, just posting those references for those who want to know about NT tithing.


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