Hi mate.victoryword wrote:They are still in heaven with God. However, due to Satan's accusations, there is the possibility that some questions needed answering. GOd sets out to do that because He is loving and wants angels and humans to serve Him and worship Him based on TRUTH and not FEAR (being afraid of Him).Ironman wrote:My own common sense tells me that the angels that never rebelled with Satan, and are still in Heaven and with God, doing His will dont need saving!!!!!!!! What a load of rubbish, the angels who never rebelled need salvation????? ROFLMGO!
Perhaps you believe as Dolph does that God indirectly uses Satan as some policeman. This would mean that God is NOT at war with Satan and his evil forces but that they secretly work for Him. Is that the position you take for why God has not yet thrown Satan in the lake of fire to burn forever?
I never once believed God is the author of sin sickness or disease. It must be just the way I am because once I learned the truth about God, who He is, what He has done for mankind, His plan for man, His nature, His power, glory and His love for us, I never doubted anything He does or has done in the eternal past. I'm sure the faithfull angels, who have been with Him since before the creation feel the same way and God really has nothing to prove to them at all. I think God, even though Jesus has defeated powers and principalities and made a shew of them in it , has not yet finally dealt with satan because all things must all pan out as it was prophesied by God. Satan was jealous of God and wanted to dethrone Him. He lied about God and some of God's angels, 1 third of them believed these lies and followed satan of their own free will.
I doubt the whole of God faithfull angels who after battle of the invasion of heaven by satan the his followers later said, "Well God we remained faithfull, some of us only just, and some of us feel there are a few questions you better clear up with us. Did you or did you not tell some of the porkies satan was spreading about you?" In my personal opinion dont believe that ever happened and no story book anout the salvation of angels, the unfaithfull or the faithfull will ever convince me of this. Scripture tells me satan and one third of Gods angels rebelled, two thirds of Gods angels remained faithfull. There is not one scripture which teaches me that some remained faithfull but had some doubts which needed explaination after the fact?
If someone told me God was the author of sin sickness and disease I would not believe one word they said. If someone said to me, satan spread lies about God causing the rebellion and God is now busy clearing up any doubt some of His faithfull angels now have, I refuse to believe that as well.
Many on earth believe God does send sickness. I heard a woman on a TV program say God gave her a beautiful healthy child then struck him down with some horriffic disability to teach her a lesson???? As If she was more important in God's eyes than the child was?? She obviously though so! I had a distant relative tell me she hated God because she was allways sick. She never thought to blame her way of life, drugs, alcohol, cigaretts, eating junk food or often not eating at all?? She finally died drowned in her own vomit. Did God cause her to get so drunk that she ended up like this?? No! But many believed He did. Many of her associates believed there was no God at all because of the very same reasons.
God has nothing to prove to me or His faithfull angels. I need to show Him ever day that I believe Him and will endure by remaing faithfull to the end. Thats my humble take on the matter.
