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Re: Pat Robertson Calls Young Earth Creation ‘Nonsense,’

Post by Hill Top » Tue May 14, 2019 1:31 pm

bibleman wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 9:08 am
Did you read what AW PINK said?
GENESIS 1:1 --- "In the beginning (whenever that was) God created the heaven and the earth"; subsequently (after the primitive creation had become a ruin) "the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is."

THE REST OF GENESIS 1:3 and onward --- In "six days," that is, literal days of twenty-four hours duration, the Lord completed the work of restoring and re-fashioning that which some terrible catastrophe had blasted and plunged into chaos. GENESIS 1:2
Arthur W. Pink, – Gleanings in Genesis, (Chicago: Moody Press, 1922), WORDsearch CROSS e-book, 11.
Why does he add so many words to scripture?
Because they aren't of God.



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Re: Pat Robertson Calls Young Earth Creation ‘Nonsense,’

Post by bibleman » Tue May 14, 2019 3:08 pm

Hill Top wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 1:31 pm
bibleman wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 9:08 am
Did you read what AW PINK said?
GENESIS 1:1 --- "In the beginning (whenever that was) God created the heaven and the earth"; subsequently (after the primitive creation had become a ruin) "the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is."

THE REST OF GENESIS 1:3 and onward --- In "six days," that is, literal days of twenty-four hours duration, the Lord completed the work of restoring and re-fashioning that which some terrible catastrophe had blasted and plunged into chaos. GENESIS 1:2
Arthur W. Pink, – Gleanings in Genesis, (Chicago: Moody Press, 1922), WORDsearch CROSS e-book, 11.
Why does he add so many words to scripture?
Because they aren't of God.
You would do well to do a study on the Pre-adamite World... Until you do it is hard to discuss this topic with you.


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Re: Pat Robertson Calls Young Earth Creation ‘Nonsense,’

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Tue May 14, 2019 6:38 pm

luchnia wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 7:23 am
From scripture we can certainly see that the earth is ... much like other planets...
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 9:22 am
Does scripture actually say that Earth is a planet?



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Mon May 13, 2019 12:20 pm
No, not that I know of, yet the concept of creation of all things is revealed in what we see and man has seen the earth from afar. I suppose from what we have to compare it, it is like what we call planets.

What is earth like? Maybe earth is one of a kind object, neither to be compared to anything else and a separate and unique creation. That is possible, yet also not stated in scripture.



Thanks, Luchnia.

Dake said that Heaven is a planet, just like Earth. I wonder if Heaven is as small as Earth?


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Re: Pat Robertson Calls Young Earth Creation ‘Nonsense,’

Post by Hill Top » Tue May 14, 2019 11:36 pm

bibleman wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 3:08 pm
Why does he add so many words to scripture?
Because they aren't of God.
You would do well to do a study on the Pre-adamite World... Until you do it is hard to discuss this topic with you.
If it is so easy to throw away the first verses of Genesis, is it too hard to throw away parts of the Gospel too?
Like for instance...water baptism isn't essential to salvation?
Like...repentance from sin isn't crucial to salvation?
Like...the gift of the Holy Ghost isn't necessary for salvation?
Robertson is doing just that, supposing scripture is wrong and substituting "man's" wisdom in it's place.
Be warned.

Sorry for the double post, but "I don't have permission to delete posts".



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Re: Pat Robertson Calls Young Earth Creation ‘Nonsense,’

Post by bibleman » Wed May 15, 2019 12:00 am

Hill Top wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 11:36 pm
bibleman wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 3:08 pm
Why does he add so many words to scripture?
Because they aren't of God.
You would do well to do a study on the Pre-adamite World... Until you do it is hard to discuss this topic with you.
If it is so easy to throw away the first verses of Genesis, is it too hard to throw away parts of the Gospel too?
Like for instance...water baptism isn't essential to salvation?
Like...repentance from sin isn't crucial to salvation?
Like...the gift of the Holy Ghost isn't necessary for salvation?
Robertson is doing just that, supposing scripture is wrong and substituting "man's" wisdom in it's place.
Be warned.

Sorry for the double post, but "I don't have permission to delete posts".
Nobody is throwing away the first verse of Genesis.

Let's go there and see if we can agree.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

When in the beginning - not 6,000 years ago - not 5 minutes ago - not 1 million years ago... JUST in the beginning - whenever that was. No one knows. AGREE?

Who created? God. AGREE?

What did God do? Created! Bara - to create. AGREE?

What did he create? "the heaven and the earth" AGREE?

Do you agree with all of this?


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Re: Pat Robertson Calls Young Earth Creation ‘Nonsense,’

Post by luchnia » Wed May 15, 2019 6:51 am

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:38 pm
luchnia wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 7:23 am
From scripture we can certainly see that the earth is ... much like other planets...
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 9:22 am
Does scripture actually say that Earth is a planet?



luchnia wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 12:20 pm
No, not that I know of, yet the concept of creation of all things is revealed in what we see and man has seen the earth from afar. I suppose from what we have to compare it, it is like what we call planets.

What is earth like? Maybe earth is one of a kind object, neither to be compared to anything else and a separate and unique creation. That is possible, yet also not stated in scripture.



Thanks, Luchnia.

Dake said that Heaven is a planet, just like Earth. I wonder if Heaven is as small as Earth?
Good question. Also, if it is a planet, or planet like, is it invisible to our eyes and tools to be seen, or is it out there and we see it, but don't realize it is actually the place called heaven? Maybe it is so far away that we are not permitting the technology to view it.

Dake made a most interesting point when he commented that God's capital city New Jerusalem will be on earth which makes me think if heaven is a planet it does not hold the value that earth holds for the future state of man - at least from what I understand. I think scripture shows us that earth is paramount in the entire plan of God, even from the beginning.

Earth must hold a special and central place among the vastness of the government of God. I am thinking God would not have "renewed" earth and told Adam to replenish it, had it not had such significance in His overall plan. A simple question could be asked, why did God choose earth as the habitation for Adam and his progeny?


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Re: Pat Robertson Calls Young Earth Creation ‘Nonsense,’

Post by Hill Top » Wed May 15, 2019 2:58 pm

bibleman wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 12:00 am
Nobody is throwing away the first verse of Genesis.
Let's go there and see if we can agree.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
When in the beginning - not 6,000 years ago - not 5 minutes ago - not 1 million years ago... JUST in the beginning - whenever that was. No one knows. AGREE?
The first day concluded in Gen 1:5.
Who created? God. AGREE?
What did God do? Created! Bara - to create. AGREE?
What did he create? "the heaven and the earth" AGREE?
Do you agree with all of this?
I agree with your latter points, but the first one...not so much.

As it is written that the end of the first day was in Gen 1:5, the start of the first day would start in Gen 1:1.
There were no days before it, as P Robertson mistakenly opines.



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Re: Pat Robertson Calls Young Earth Creation ‘Nonsense,’

Post by bibleman » Thu May 16, 2019 9:21 am

Hill Top wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 2:58 pm
bibleman wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 12:00 am
Nobody is throwing away the first verse of Genesis.
Let's go there and see if we can agree.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
When in the beginning - not 6,000 years ago - not 5 minutes ago - not 1 million years ago... JUST in the beginning - whenever that was. No one knows. AGREE?
The first day concluded in Gen 1:5.
Who created? God. AGREE?
What did God do? Created! Bara - to create. AGREE?
What did he create? "the heaven and the earth" AGREE?
Do you agree with all of this?
I agree with your latter points, but the first one...not so much.

As it is written that the end of the first day was in Gen 1:5, the start of the first day would start in Gen 1:1.
There were no days before it, as P Robertson mistakenly opines.
Yes the first day concluded in Gen 1:5 but it only started in Genesis 1:3


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Re: Pat Robertson Calls Young Earth Creation ‘Nonsense,’

Post by Hill Top » Thu May 16, 2019 2:00 pm

bibleman wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 9:21 am
Hill Top wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 2:58 pm
Yes the first day concluded in Gen 1:5 but it only started in Genesis 1:3
Not so, as only the light stated in Gen 1:3.
There was already a dark formless void in existence.



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Re: Pat Robertson Calls Young Earth Creation ‘Nonsense,’

Post by bibleman » Thu May 16, 2019 2:34 pm

Hill Top wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 2:00 pm
bibleman wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 9:21 am
Hill Top wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 2:58 pm
Yes the first day concluded in Gen 1:5 but it only started in Genesis 1:3
Not so, as only the light stated in Gen 1:3.
There was already a dark formless void in existence.
Who created this dark formless void?


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