What brought that on?
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I agree with what Dake says about this.Hill Top wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:52 pmJudas and David were not "born of God".
I disagree.1 John 3: 9, Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
The secret of a proper understanding of this verse is in the word "IN," which means in harmony with or in union with, and not bodily entrance into.
We are "immersed" into Christ at our water baptism. (Rom 6:3)
We ARE in Him.
Besides, even your description of "in" would provide the same immunity from bearing the fruit of another seed.
Apple trees cannot bear anything but apples.
Any sin would prove the sinner wasn't ever born of God's seed...as God's seed cannot bear evil fruit.The seed is the Word of God by which a man is born again (1 Peter 1:23; Jas. 1:18). The simple idea is that as long as one remains in union with or in harmony with the seed, or the Word of God, he cannot sin. If he grows cold in his love for God, ceases to pray and keep his spiritual life up to normal he then may be overcome again by sin by transgressing the Word of God (1 John 2:1; 2 Peter 1:5-10.
Dake Bible 1 John notes, 7 fallacies based on 1 John 3:9. page 489.
God's seed can only bear godly fruit.
Curious about something, do you think Jesus was His own Father? Remember Jesus made the statement that He and His Father are one, so does that mean they are the same one?
The seed of God does not work in totality the way that you are trying to make it work when comparing it to apple trees and fig trees. You seem find it hard to believe that a child of God cannot choose to do and follow evil as Scripture shows they can. My guess is that you remove man's power to choose and somehow make God's seed usurp that power once a man is born from above.Hill Top wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:58 pmYour inference is that God's seed can bear evil fruit.
The folks you label as "fallen away" are actually false Christians who never where born of God.
Your reasons for equating sinners with those born of God are beyond me.
Fig trees cannot bear grapes...except for those with your understanding.
God forbid this happen to any one of us as it did with Judas and others that rejected the Lord. May we never be deceived and choose that path of darkness.
I think this is the bizarre teaching that Eve had sex with the serpent and somehow gave birth from it. Been many years ago, but I remember quite a number of folks going down that doctrinal road and it was taught quite a bit from pulpits. It has died down a lot over the years.
No, Jesus was not His own father..
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