stand wrote:We are saved by grace through faith, evidenced by works. If there is no works, there is no faith, and grace is not received by the person. This is my understanding.

Give the man a hotdog, that is what I have been trying to say!! This...this is what I have been trying to say.

I have deleted my message for the time being, to re-word what it is I am trying to say after spending some time sharing with a close friend and spiritual mentor...will be back later to continue the discussion.

I confess according to 1 John 1:9.

Billy, how is grace being overemphasized? That is where our salvation begins, at grace. Preaching works to an unsaved person is not going to get them saved...we preach grace, the gospel, not the law, or even the keeping of the law, other than to show them that they have sinned and need a saviour. Wh...

Without grace, God's love is empty ; without love, God's grace is powerless.

I believe the two cannot be separated. We are commanded to walk in love. You cannot do that without being a grace dispenser.

I have never read any of his books...only seen a few of his sermons on TV. What I heard, I liked, though. But I do not have any extensive knowledge of him. But, I do feel, though, that there is a major misunderstanding of the grace of God in the Church today. I have been to Pentacostal Churches wher...

I never said there would not be works...but what does James say? He said, show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. But that is the thing, we do the works, not to be saved, but because we are saved. Works cannot, in no way, ever save us. Our righteousness is as...

Personally, I like Joseph Prince. I have not heard him preach an abuse of grace. But, yes, his message could be taken out of context like that. After all, Paul the Apostle had to set the Church straight on that very topic, because ppl were saying he taught that as well. Just remember: It is by GRACE...

heh...wow, Jay, that was quite awhile ago. I remember doing the same thing, and getting the Dake Wordsearch, also. But my copy has since disappeared, sadly.

Chris