bibleman wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:01 am

Adam was tempted by Eve... and Eve was tempted by the Devil... who was the source of the deception.

Who is responsible for giving into the temptation? The tempter or the temptee?
Remember, Adam was not deceived. Eve was, but Adam was not. See 1st Timothy 2:14.

I ran across a fascinating article on Zion, Illinois; Alexander Dowie, William Glenn Voliva, and the Flat Earth. To my surprise, there was a mention of the Pre-Adamites and a teaching concerning them under Dowie's and Voliva's leadership in Zion. For those that don't know, Dake lived in Zion, for a ...

Who else would you say is responsible for the problem? The fact that different groups think the Bible means different things... does not change the clear meaning of Scripture itself. We can't yield to the idea the the Bible means different things to different groups. If people disagree with the Bib...

That would depend on whether or not the sinner was already in "the" church ? (As opposed by being in some other church that was false.) If he came to us from the outside, we would baptize them in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. If he was already a supposed member of our congrega...

I think the problem is the deception of the devil. I think the approval comes from what aligns with the Bible itself. I think part of it might be the deception of the devil. But, since he is not omnipotent, I don't think giving him sole credit for causing the problem is warranted. Partially, yes. B...

Hill Top wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:36 pm

It is the final key.
Their sin has cost them the ability to meet the "blameless" requirement of a true bishop or deacon. (1 Tim 3:2)
Repentance is available to them, but they have forfeited their "office".

Would this repentance require a fresh water baptism?

I cannot find any scripture in the Bible that openly supports these doctrines. They have added to God's word in support of this demonic rubbish. The fruit will tell you if the prophet is from God. Do they still commit sin ? (Matt 7:15-17) Is this the final key? Ignore preacher/teacher that still si...

This time has arrived: 2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; That's been going on for quite a while, I think. Yes, sadly it has. But I don't know of a time when it has bee...

bibleman wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:16 pm

This time has arrived:

2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

That's been going on for quite a while, I think.

macca wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:27 am

I believe this is part of the falling away that happens just before the end of the Church age.

bibleman wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:10 am

Yes it is!

How so?