The causes of salvation are many. The lack of any one of which will end up in condemnation. Thanks be to God for the ability to "run the race". Please, list all the causes of salvation. Preferably with scriptural references. Thank you. God. Jesus. Repentance from sin. (Acts 2:38) Baptism in the nam...

bibleman wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:25 pm

Hill Top wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:03 pm

Spiritblade Disciple wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:05 am

True. I got them confused. It's Pember, not Larkin.
Apologies.

No big...
There are so many false prophets out there that it is hard to keep them separate.

GW Pember has never claimed to be a prophet.

Good thing.

The devil believes, but his testimony and evidences don't manifest Jesus' work on earth. Just saying one believes is not enough for salvation. Life must illustrate that belief. You are correct that faith is not enough for salvation. Faith without works is similar to the faith of devils. Faith with ...

Spiritblade Disciple wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:05 am

True. I got them confused. It's Pember, not Larkin.
Apologies.

No big...
There are so many false prophets out there that it is hard to keep them separate.

Do you really beleive that someone with no evidence of "having been saved" will be saved ? I don't. Isn't believing on the Lord Jesus Christ enough? Acts 16:31 New King James Version So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.” 1st John 5:1a New K...

Spiritblade Disciple wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:22 pm

Hill Top wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:25 pm

Well that is what I am saying...his POV isn't provable with scripture.

True. Larkin's view is not provable with scripture.

Who is Larkin ?
I thought we were discussing Pember's POV ?

Spiritblade Disciple wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:56 pm

Hill Top wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:18 pm

Don't you think that the evidence and testimony are imperatives ?

Depends upon whether or not you mean by "imperitive" that it is a requirement in order to be saved.
If yes, then no.

Do you really beleive that someone with no evidence of "having been saved" will be saved ?
I don't.

Spiritblade Disciple wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:32 am

Hill Top wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:26 pm

Why give any credence at all to an unbiblical POV ?

How does one know whether or not something is unbiblical without testing it in the light of the Scriptures?

Well that is what I am saying...his POV isn't provable with scripture.

Just read this tonight and thought it might be of some interest. Not a Bible verse of course. “We seem, therefore, to be driven upon the supposition that excessive love bent him to her entreaties, and made him determine to share her fate. And herein we see his unfitness to receive such a gift from ...

Baseball was as close a simile as I could think of. Cornelius, and his bunch, received the gifts of the Holy Ghost and tongues before their baptisms. So the order isn't imperative to salvation. What if neither one is imperitive to salvation? What if both are simply evidences of salvation or testimo...