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Re: Reverend Dake how to overcome sin and bad habits

Postby luchnia » Wed May 10, 2017 6:57 am

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The Ultra-grace people say you are forgiven and saved whether you confess and forsake it or not. - To them it does not matter if you are still sinning are living like the Devil. Once you have been born again according to them - there is nothing you could ever do to get out of going to Heaven - no matter how hard you try!

Proverbs 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

Your part is to confess and forsake sin. Finis J. Dake, God's Plan for Man, (Lawrenceville, GA: Dake Publishing, Inc., 2004), WORDsearch CROSS e-book, 32.


OSASers fall into this camp. I know several that say "when" you sin (they change the "if" in God's word to "when") you only are out of fellowship. God still keeps you. You are still saved. Bull marlarky!

I think a lot of people think lip service takes care of it as well. In other words, they can confess, but continue in the sin. More bull marlarky :mrgreen:


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Re: Reverend Dake how to overcome sin and bad habits

Postby bibleman » Wed May 10, 2017 12:31 pm

luchnia wrote:
bibleman wrote:
branham1965 wrote:
The Ultra-grace people say you are forgiven and saved whether you confess and forsake it or not. - To them it does not matter if you are still sinning are living like the Devil. Once you have been born again according to them - there is nothing you could ever do to get out of going to Heaven - no matter how hard you try!

Proverbs 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

Your part is to confess and forsake sin. Finis J. Dake, God's Plan for Man, (Lawrenceville, GA: Dake Publishing, Inc., 2004), WORDsearch CROSS e-book, 32.


OSASers fall into this camp. I know several that say "when" you sin (they change the "if" in God's word to "when") you only are out of fellowship. God still keeps you. You are still saved. Bull marlarky!

I think a lot of people think lip service takes care of it as well. In other words, they can confess, but continue in the sin. More bull marlarky :mrgreen:


Sadly the church (wheat and tares) are full of that kind of teaching. I would not want to be in their shoes when I meet Jesus face to face!


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Re: Reverend Dake how to overcome sin and bad habits

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deleted... wrong thread... my apologies...



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Re: Reverend Dake how to overcome sin and bad habits

Postby bibleman » Wed May 10, 2017 9:59 pm

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:deleted... wrong thread... my apologies...


By posting in the wrong thread you just proved you are a tare! +goofy


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Re: Reverend Dake how to overcome sin and bad habits

Postby Spiritblade Disciple » Wed May 10, 2017 10:15 pm

bibleman wrote:
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:deleted... wrong thread... my apologies...


By posting in the wrong thread you just proved you are a tare! +goofy

+CrazyEyes

I'm sure that those that think I'm a tare didn't have to wait for this mistake to come to that conclusion. :mrgreen:



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Re: Reverend Dake how to overcome sin and bad habits

Postby luchnia » Thu May 11, 2017 6:45 am

Listening to Dake's lectures over and over and over there is no doubt he taught total purity in God and he taught that one was heart sanctified at the moment of the new birth - the born-again experience.

He did at times bring up some things that could be perceived to be slightly against total purity, yet in the bulk of his messages was you are pure in Christ and you must continue to stay pure. He certainly indicated that one could fall, thus the reason for staying pure, standing, remaining, enduring, and so on.

If you align with Dake's teaching you would have to wonder at this ultra grace thing! Pulling a few verses out of context and building on them and not balancing them across the board can easily put you in the ultra grace camp. I can see why the argument can be strong for ultra grace even though I disagree with it.


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Re: Reverend Dake how to overcome sin and bad habits

Postby bibleman » Thu May 11, 2017 9:34 am

luchnia wrote:Listening to Dake's lectures over and over and over there is no doubt he taught total purity in God and he taught that one was heart sanctified at the moment of the new birth - the born-again experience.

He did at times bring up some things that could be perceived to be slightly against total purity, yet in the bulk of his messages was you are pure in Christ and you must continue to stay pure. He certainly indicated that one could fall, thus the reason for staying pure, standing, remaining, enduring, and so on.

If you align with Dake's teaching you would have to wonder at this ultra grace thing! Pulling a few verses out of context and building on them and not balancing them across the board can easily put you in the ultra grace camp. I can see why the argument can be strong for ultra grace even though I disagree with it.


In this video Dake says somewhat like you do: "If you will get right with God... and stay right with God... then you will always be right with God!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32x6EjqYEZ0


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Re: Reverend Dake how to overcome sin and bad habits

Postby branham1965 » Thu May 11, 2017 6:47 pm

" HE DID AT TIMES BRING UP SOME THINGS THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED TO BE AGAINST TOTAL PURITY YET IN THE BULK OF HIS MESSAGES....WHAT!!!!!!!!! :shocked!: :crazyeyes:

Reverend Dake handled this subject in a balanced, sane,and kind way.With the heart of a Pastor.






luchnia wrote:Listening to Dake's lectures over and over and over there is no doubt he taught total purity in God and he taught that one was heart sanctified at the moment of the new birth - the born-again experience.

He did at times bring up some things that could be perceived to be slightly against total purity, yet in the bulk of his messages was you are pure in Christ and you must continue to stay pure. He certainly indicated that one could fall, thus the reason for staying pure, standing, remaining, enduring, and so on.

If you align with Dake's teaching you would have to wonder at this ultra grace thing! Pulling a few verses out of context and building on them and not balancing them across the board can easily put you in the ultra grace camp. I can see why the argument can be strong for ultra grace even though I disagree with it.



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Re: Reverend Dake how to overcome sin and bad habits

Postby luchnia » Fri May 12, 2017 7:03 am

branham1965 wrote:" HE DID AT TIMES BRING UP SOME THINGS THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED TO BE AGAINST TOTAL PURITY YET IN THE BULK OF HIS MESSAGES....WHAT!!!!!!!!! :shocked!: :crazyeyes:

Reverend Dake handled this subject in a balanced, sane,and kind way.With the heart of a Pastor.






luchnia wrote:Listening to Dake's lectures over and over and over there is no doubt he taught total purity in God and he taught that one was heart sanctified at the moment of the new birth - the born-again experience.

He did at times bring up some things that could be perceived to be slightly against total purity, yet in the bulk of his messages was you are pure in Christ and you must continue to stay pure. He certainly indicated that one could fall, thus the reason for staying pure, standing, remaining, enduring, and so on.

If you align with Dake's teaching you would have to wonder at this ultra grace thing! Pulling a few verses out of context and building on them and not balancing them across the board can easily put you in the ultra grace camp. I can see why the argument can be strong for ultra grace even though I disagree with it.

Yes I agree. Dake did a great job of balance. He would state a condition, yet he would not approve, authorize, accept or otherwise of sin and taught total purity and holiness in God. He maintained that it could not be tolerated and the sinner would perish in hell.

He stated that the unsaved and saved are not together in the true Church and that they could not be. He was definitely well balanced in his teachings.


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Re: Reverend Dake how to overcome sin and bad habits

Postby branham1965 » Fri May 12, 2017 5:42 pm

IF THAT WAS ALL REVEREND DAKE PREACHED AND TAUGHT


HE WOULD HAVE BEEN TOO EXTREME AND IN THE DITCH .


INSTEAD HE TAUGHT THE WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD AND HAS BLESSED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.




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