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A falling away.

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Years ago in the church we taught that sin would keep you out of Heaven. Things like adultery, being a liar, a drunkard and such were taught as sins that would send you to Hell.

But today there are those that teach that NO sin will send you to Hell. They say there is only one sin that sends people to Hell, the sin of rejecting Jesus Christ. They say all other sins are just maturity problems as long as you do not reject Jesus. There minds are blinded to the truth of the Bible and if they continue in their sin they will be lost. Yet there are preachers all over the nation on TV telling them they are still right with God.

I even heard one preacher say that David who committed adultery with Bathsheba and murdered her husband was still saved and never lost his salvation for committing adultery and murder. That is truly false doctrine and yet there are many who follow that kind of false teaching.

As much as I hate to say it, we are indeed in the last days and there is a falling away taking place!


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REVEREND BIBLE

HOW DO you deal with those bound by Lucifer who come to your Church????

bibleman wrote:Years ago in the church we taught that sin would keep you out of Heaven. Things like adultery, being a liar, a drunkard and such were taught as sins that would send you to Hell.

But today there are those that teach that NO sin will send you to Hell. They say there is only one sin that sends people to Hell, the sin of rejecting Jesus Christ. They say all other sins are just maturity problems as long as you do not reject Jesus. There minds are blinded to the truth of the Bible and if they continue in their sin they will be lost. Yet there are preachers all over the nation on TV telling them they are still right with God.

I even heard one preacher say that David who committed adultery with Bathsheba and murdered her husband was still saved and never lost his salvation for committing adultery and murder. That is truly false doctrine and yet there are many who follow that kind of false teaching.

As much as I hate to say it, we are indeed in the last days and there is a falling away taking place!



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branham1965 wrote:REVEREND BIBLE

HOW DO you deal with those bound by Lucifer who come to your Church????

bibleman wrote:Years ago in the church we taught that sin would keep you out of Heaven. Things like adultery, being a liar, a drunkard and such were taught as sins that would send you to Hell.

But today there are those that teach that NO sin will send you to Hell. They say there is only one sin that sends people to Hell, the sin of rejecting Jesus Christ. They say all other sins are just maturity problems as long as you do not reject Jesus. There minds are blinded to the truth of the Bible and if they continue in their sin they will be lost. Yet there are preachers all over the nation on TV telling them they are still right with God.

I even heard one preacher say that David who committed adultery with Bathsheba and murdered her husband was still saved and never lost his salvation for committing adultery and murder. That is truly false doctrine and yet there are many who follow that kind of false teaching.

As much as I hate to say it, we are indeed in the last days and there is a falling away taking place!
First of....

It is OK to drop the Reverend.... I just go by Leon or else Pastor.

Being bound by Lucifer is no problem at all.

Preach the Gospel and it will do the rest!

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.


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Pastor

when folks hear their revered teachers teaching that we are only damned by one sin rejecting Christ.some of the best teachers and preachers teach this.and some of finest men teach-taught this.



the Roman Church???? :agrue:


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branham1965 wrote:REVEREND BIBLE

HOW DO you deal with those bound by Lucifer who come to your Church????

bibleman wrote:Years ago in the church we taught that sin would keep you out of Heaven. Things like adultery, being a liar, a drunkard and such were taught as sins that would send you to Hell.

But today there are those that teach that NO sin will send you to Hell. They say there is only one sin that sends people to Hell, the sin of rejecting Jesus Christ. They say all other sins are just maturity problems as long as you do not reject Jesus. There minds are blinded to the truth of the Bible and if they continue in their sin they will be lost. Yet there are preachers all over the nation on TV telling them they are still right with God.

I even heard one preacher say that David who committed adultery with Bathsheba and murdered her husband was still saved and never lost his salvation for committing adultery and murder. That is truly false doctrine and yet there are many who follow that kind of false teaching.

As much as I hate to say it, we are indeed in the last days and there is a falling away taking place!
First of....

It is OK to drop the Reverend.... I just go by Leon or else Pastor.

Being bound by Lucifer is no problem at all.

Preach the Gospel and it will do the rest!

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.



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It's no wonder that we don't see professing Christians living any differently than the world-at-large. All of the current pop preaching puts the emphasis on being free from sin's guilt and condemnation (justification) and ends it there. It's as if they want to end the Book of Romans at chapter 5! As long as there's little or no teaching on the fact that salvation is more than forgiveness, that it includes a change brought about by the Holy Spirit (regeneration) and a lifetime of living under the influence of the same Holy Spirit (sanctification), there's little hope for the Church!

We won't see people living changed lives if we don't tell them there can be and ought to be change. Especially if we teach and preach as though change doesn't matter.



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titus213 wrote:It's no wonder that we don't see professing Christians living any differently than the world-at-large. All of the current pop preaching puts the emphasis on being free from sin's guilt and condemnation (justification) and ends it there. It's as if they want to end the Book of Romans at chapter 5! As long as there's little or no teaching on the fact that salvation is more than forgiveness, that it includes a change brought about by the Holy Spirit (regeneration) and a lifetime of living under the influence of the same Holy Spirit (sanctification), there's little hope for the Church!

We won't see people living changed lives if we don't tell them there can be and ought to be change. Especially if we teach and preach as though change doesn't matter.
:angel:


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bibleman wrote:But today there are those that teach that NO sin will send you to Hell. They say there is only one sin that sends people to Hell, the sin of rejecting Jesus Christ.
Yes, they love to single out John 3:18 and lift it out of its context to make their point that there's only one sin that sends someone to hell: "He who believes in Him is not condemned. But he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

Somehow, they don't ever mention that Jesus also said this a few chapters later in John:

"Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins. For unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.” (8:24)



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It's a possibility that God chose people that would be known to those in Jerusalem to show the power of God in the resurrection.

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The fact that supposedly David's body was not among those who came out of their graves means absolutely nothing. First of all, we don't know that those bodies were permanently resurrected as glorified bodies. Second, it's a classic example of trying to draw a conclusion from the silence of the Bible.

As Ironman has pointed out, God had already designated David as the one who would rule in the future.



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Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
a [many bodies of the saints which slept arose] These bodies made part of the multitude of captives Christ captured from Satan in the underworld of departed spirits and which He took captive with Him when He ascended on high (Eph. 4:8-10; Heb. 2:14-15). Now when Christians die they no longer go into the lower parts of the earth held captive by the devil against their will, but go to heaven to await the resurrection of the body (2Cor. 5:8; Php. 1:21-24; Rev. 6:9-11; Heb. 12:22). The wicked continue to go to hell to await their resurrection (Lk. 16:19-31; Rev. 20:11-15).

Notes For Verse 53
a [after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many] They could not have come out before for Christ was to be resurrected first and enter into immortality in a human body (1Cor. 15:20-23; Rev. 1:5; Lk. 24:39).
Finis Jennings Dake, Dake's Annotated Reference Bible: Containing the Old and New Testaments of the Authorized or King James Version Text, (Lawrenceville, GA: Dake Bible Sales, Inc., 1997), WORDsearch CROSS e-book, Under: "Chapter 27".


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