Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ 50 Hostages taken Sydney, ISIS

[Ironman]

Its finally on Down Under. They were called to do it, they said they would do it and now its done!

Sydney; Martin place cafe with reports of at least 50 people have been taken hostage,it's unfolding now live on TV channel 7.Even footage of a guy wearing a headband with writing on it .Very scary considering several months ago this area was named as a terrorist attack but was foiled.

Islamic state flag now confirmed up in the cafe...

"Police operation is taking place in Martin Place Sydney Photo: Police with guns drawn outside a building in Martin Place in Sydney's CBD. (ABC News: Sarah Gerathy)

A number of hostages have been taken in a siege in Sydney's CBD.

At least three people can be seen through the windows of a cafe in Martin Place with their hands raised.

An Islamic flag has also been seen hanging in the window of the Lindt Chocolat Cafe.

Witnesses have reported hearing loud bangs that sounded like gun shots.

One block of Martin Place has been cordoned off between Elizabeth Street and Phillip Street.

Dozens of police cars are at the scene and one police officer has drawn his gun.

Police have urged members of the public to avoid the area.

The Channel Seven newsroom opposite the cafe has been evacuated.

Seven producer Patrick Byrne said staff at the network watched the situation unfold.

"We raced to the window and saw the shocking and chilling sight of people putting their hands up against the panes of glass at the cafe," he said.

"This was just extraordinary.

"Then, as we were looking wondering what was going on, it seemed to be like an armed hold-up, more police arrived at Martin Place.

"The area was cleared. People were kept back.

"It was then that gasps went through the newsroom as an ISIS flag was put up against one of the window panes."

More to come."

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[Ironman]

Siege gunman identified as Man Haron Monis, aka 'Sheikh Haron', who sent hate mail to Australian war widows. The self-described cleric, has been known to police for some seven years.

The gunman Monis was on bail for a string of violent offences including being an accessory to the murder of his ex-wife.

He was also facing more than 50 charges of indecent and sexual assault.

Monis, an Iranian who came to Australia as a refugee, also gained media attention in 2007-2009 when he was convicted for sending offensive letters to the widows and families of Australian soldiers who had been killed in Afghanistan.

At 5.33am police issued a statement that confirmed the 50-year-old self proscribed terrorist had been killed in the operation.
Another man, aged 34, and a woman, aged 38, were pronounced dead after being taken to hospital.

It’s a sad day indeed. My prays go out the families involved.

This Self-described cleric, Man Haron Monis, had a Facebook page which was shut down as the siege began.

What’s frightening is this, while our premier is call out to the locals to extend the hand of friendship to the Muslim population in Sydney,

Haron Monis had a Facebook page which was pulled down on Monday night as the siege continued.

IT HAD 14,725 LIKES when it was shut down.

This is just the beginning.

God bless,


Haz.

[branham1965]

How awful.
War widows.This is the end.


We have a shooting everyday here Haz.A madman shot six relatives in Pennsylvania.He is on the loose.

I am like you.I believe citizens should be armed.

Siege gunman identified as Man Haron Monis, aka 'Sheikh Haron', who sent hate mail to Australian war widows. The self-described cleric, has been known to police for some seven years.

The gunman Monis was on bail for a string of violent offences including being an accessory to the murder of his ex-wife.

He was also facing more than 50 charges of indecent and sexual assault.

Monis, an Iranian who came to Australia as a refugee, also gained media attention in 2007-2009 when he was convicted for sending offensive letters to the widows and families of Australian soldiers who had been killed in Afghanistan.

At 5.33am police issued a statement that confirmed the 50-year-old self proscribed terrorist had been killed in the operation.
Another man, aged 34, and a woman, aged 38, were pronounced dead after being taken to hospital.

It’s a sad day indeed. My prays go out the families involved.

This Self-described cleric, Man Haron Monis, had a Facebook page which was shut down as the siege began.

What’s frightening is this, while our premier is call out to the locals to extend the hand of friendship to the Muslim population in Sydney,

Haron Monis had a Facebook page which was pulled down on Monday night as the siege continued.

IT HAD 14,725 LIKES when it was shut down.

This is just the beginning.

God bless,


Haz.

[Ironman]

Its a sad day billy.

The two hostages who died in the Sydney siege have been named as Katrina Dawson, 38, and the manager of the Lindt cafe Tori Johnson, aged 34.

The terrorist at the centre of a 16-hour siege at a cafe in Sydney's CBD was also killed.

Ms Dawson was a Sydney lawyer and mother of three, and Mr Johnson had worked at the Lindt cafe since October 2012. He was described by colleagues as "a great guy" who "got on really well with all the staff".

A police officer was also shot in the face but thankfully he's ok!

[branham1965]

It is getting a lot of coverage here.

What a gutless lout killing two people and holding hostages.

[Ironman]

It is getting a lot of coverage here.

What a gutless lout killing two people and holding hostages.

The media here, which you probably wont hear over there is yabbering on about; "How did this man get a gun?" O'h shock horror!!!

We have the strictest firearms laws of any western nation and yet, this Terrorist, know to police for many years, a suspected wife murder, on dozens of criminal charges was OUT ON BAIL, and was able to get hold of a pump action shotgun, ILLEGAL in Australia now, he was able to saw off the barrel, to buy ammunition regardless of former NSW premier fatty O'barrell, I mean Barry O'Farrell's 2012 amunition amendment bill which did nothing more than come down hard on law abiding citizens? and Kidnap and kill innocent people!

Yet, he go a gun and ammo, just like every other criminal and terrorist do.

The café recently refused to be bullied into paying to have its shop declared "Halal" and wished their customers a very merry and happy Christmas!

I wonder?

[Ironman]

Our lying media are still calling this killer a "GUNMAN" and are deliberately avoiding the truth that he was a terrorist which his demands and threats prove beyond doubt; "The man wants the world to know that Australia is under attack by the Islamic State."

As you probably already know, here's how it all unfolded and ended.

Sydney siege ends: More than 16 hours of terror for captives. About 9.30am on Monday, barristers Katrina Dawson and Julie Taylor popped into the Lindt Chocolat Cafe. The pair worked together in commercial law, around the corner at the prestigious Eight Selborne Chambers next to the Supreme Court.

Ms Dawson, a 38-year-old mother of three young children, and Ms Taylor, pregnant, were among nine customers and eight staff inside that small cafe in Martin Place. They were there with Stefan Balafoutis, another young member of the NSW bar, from the 10th Floor Selborne/Wentworth Chambers. There were some familiar faces in the crowded room: Elly Chen, their smiling barista, a 22-year-old student from the University of NSW; Tori Johnson, the cafe's affable 34-year-old manager, and 30-year-old Harriette Denny, from the Sunshine Coast but working at the cafe in Sydney. A 75-year-old woman and a man in his 80s were also among the customers.

Then, through the cafe's automatic glass sliding doors, entered a bearded 50-year-old man. This was Man Haron Monis. He was wearing a bandanna and carrying a blue bag that contained a shotgun. The staff and customers could not have understood why Monis disabled the automatic glass doors, so nobody else could enter. They had no clues to his antecedents: the refugee who had fled from Iran to Australia in 1996, claiming he was persecuted for his liberal take on Islam; who became a self-proclaimed spiritual healer, peddling astrology and black magic, and a self-anointed sheikh; who would renounce his Shia roots to become a Sunni; who would be convicted of harassing the families of Australian soldiers killed in Afghanistan and an Austrade official who died in the Marriott Hotel bombing in Jakarta; who was on bail for his alleged complicity in the brutal murder of his former wife. A minute or so later, at 9.45am, a staff member called Bruno arrived for his shift but he also could not enter. He watched what was happening through the glass.

Soon the terrified face of Ms Chen appeared. She was pressed against the glass and, on Monis' orders, holding aloft a black flag scrawled with Arabic text in white, which translated as: "There is no god but Allah. And Muhammad is his messenger."

Police began to evacuate Martin Place of thousands of people. Channel Seven's news teams, in their studio opposite the cafe in Martin Place, were evacuated but their camera kept running on the action.

The startling images of Ms Chen and other hostages, the palms of their hands pressed against the glass, were beamed around the world.
Monis identified himself to his hostages as The Brother. But while police evacuated surrounding city blocks, nobody knew quite what the hostages were enduring inside the cafe.

Among them were four staff from the Westpac building across the mall. They included project manager Marcia Mikhael, a 43-year-old mother of three from Glenwood, in Sydney's north-west.

The stakes became clearer when posts appeared on her Facebook page on Monday afternoon. "Dear friends and family," Ms Mikhael wrote. "I'm at the Lindt Cafe at Martin Place being held hostage by a member of the ISI [Islamic State].

"The man who is keeping us hostage has asked for small and simple requests and none have been met.

"He is now threatening to start killing us. We need help right now.

But about 4.35pm there came hope. Two of the hostages, Stefan Balafoutis and the man aged in his 80s, ran from the cafe, escaping through the automatic doors. Soon after, a cafe worker fled through a service door. And just before 5pm, two women, Elly Chen and fellow cafe worker Bae Ji-eun, a 20-year-old Korean student, escaped.

Inside the cafe, however, this only infuriated Monis. The youngest of his captives, 19-year-old Jarrod Hoffman, from Bondi, called radio 2GB and The Daily Telegraph to relay Monis's demands: he wanted a direct line to Prime Minister Tony Abbott and an Islamic State flag delivered to the cafe.

"He says an eye for an eye," Mr Hoffman said. "If someone else runs, someone dies."

He added: "I have had a shotgun put at my head. Yes we do need help, but that will only happen if demands are met."

Media complied with police requests not to publish these messages or Monis's demands while the siege continued. Monis was using the hostages to get his word out, and police did not want anyone playing into his hands.

But he persevered. He ordered hostages to deliver video messages shot on a smartphone. These were posted on Monday evening using the YouTube account of another hostage, 21-year-old Joel Herat, a staff member at the cafe. YouTube took down the videos, but they spread on social media.


Suddenly Monis ordered the 17 other people in the cafe to get on the floor. A woman trying to enter from Martin Place saw this happening. She called police. on social media.

"Hi everyone, I'm Selina Win Pe," said Ms Mikhael's colleague, from Westpac's global transformation project. "We have three specific requests and none of these have been met.

"One is to send an IS flag as soon as possible and one hostage will be released. Two, please broadcast to all media that this is an attack against Australia by Islamic State.

"And number three is for Tony Abbott to contact The Brother on a live feed and five hostages will be released.

"Most importantly, there are three bombs around George Street, Martin Place and also at Circular Quay and in order for these not to be ignited we need these three things to be met as soon as possible," Ms Win Pe said. "Please help us."

Similar video messages were delivered by Ms Mikhael and barrister Julie Taylor, who began, "This is a message to Tony Abbott".

But Ms Win Pe became more desperate in a call to the Telegraph, pleading: "We've got pregnant ladies in here and sick and elderly … We have not heard from Tony Abbott. We have been asking him to call us to have a long conversation. He clearly doesn't give a * because he hasn't called us since 9.45 this morning … Help us. Help us to get Tony Abbott to call this gentleman to send the fricking Islamic State flag …"

The demands were not met.

But at 2am, more than 16 hours after the siege began, it appears the 12 remaining hostages seized their chance. Monis began to drift off to sleep. They dashed for the exit.

Monis roused and started shooting. Tori Johnson, the cafe manager, attempted to wrestle the gun from him. Monis shot him dead, although Mr Johnson's wounds suggest he beat him severely before firing the fatal shot, one source said.

At 2.03am, six of the hostages ran out a service door. They included Harriette Denny, Jarrod Hoffman and software engineer Viswakanth Ankireddy, a 32-year-old from India who is living in Sydney with his wife and young daughter and working on a Westpac project.

Outside, police had heard the shots. And a sharp-shooter had seen Mr Johnson go down, one report said. Now they had to storm the cafe or many more people would die, Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione said later.

About 2.10am they shot down the glass doors and blazed into the cafe in a hail of gunfire and lightning flashes of light. In those final seconds, they killed Monis. But the barrister Katrina Dawson – mother of three, and Julie Taylor's coffee companion – was also killed in the firefight. Police believe it was Monis's bullet that killed her.

Injured in those final violent seconds were Marcia Mikhael, shot in the leg, the 75-year-old woman, shot in the shoulder, a 52-year-old woman who was shot in the foot, and a 39-year-old policeman whose face was sprayed with pellets. He was released from hospital and Deputy Commissioner Catherine Burn said: "His only words to me were, 'I'll be back at work tomorrow'."

Fifteen hostages were alive, but Ms Dawson and Mr Johnson became the victims of Man Haron Monis, a deranged lone wolf who wanted the world to believe he was an Islamic State warrior.

He had been born with the name Mohammad Hassan Manteghi. He grew up to become a fake sheik, a pretend spiritual healer and a wannabe terrorist.

Nobody believed him. But he was dangerous and, for more than 16 hours, he did terrorise a nation."

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[Ironman]

Was he a lone wolf, or just a crazy gunman as our anti gun media in Australia is portraying him? He was a terrorist nothing more, he killed innocent people in the name of allah his god.

The man Haron Monis couldn’t have done more to make the deaf hear that the terror he unleashed in Sydney was in the name of Islam.

As he walked into the Lindt coffee shop with his shotgun on Monday he wore a headband bearing the war cry: “We are ready to sacrifice for you, O Muhammad.”

The Iranian-born cleric had already fought for Islam by sending jeering letters to the families of Australian soldiers killed in Afghanistan.

On his Facebook page he’d posted jihadist porn and pledged his allegiance to the bloody caliphate of the Islamic State.

And in that coffee shop on Monday he conscripted his terrified hostages at gunpoint into his personal jihad.

He ordered some to hold up against the window a black Shahada flag announcing: “There is no god but Allah; Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.”

He made videos of three of them reciting his demands, which included ordering police to fetch him an Islamic State flag and have broadcast this explanation: “This is an attack on Australia by Islamic State.”

And then he killed two captives.

I don’t know how much more explicit Monis could have been.

And I don’t know how more wilfully deaf some people can be.

“Cops still baffled by gunman’s motivations,” reported AAP on Tuesday.

The Age, in one long online news report on the terror attack, avoided any use of the words “Islam” or “Muslim”.

ABC reporters and commentators, especially, on Radio National, babbled how this unfortunate episode had nothing to do with Islam, given Monis was clearly crazy.

Islamic groups claimed nothing in their faith licensed this ghastly attack, and Monis’s former lawyer, Manny Conditsis, summed up this deep evasion in an interview with the ABC: “Yes, he said he was of the Islam faith, but he could have been any other damaged individual that did what he did.”

Except, of course, we rarely get damaged individuals killing people in chocolate shops in the name of Buddha.

We don’t get damaged individuals beheading a British soldier in the name of Christ.

We didn’t get damaged individuals shooting a Canadian soldier guarding Canada’s cenotaph, or plotting bombings of our MCG, or trying to blow up jets with the explosives in their shoes or their underwear in the name of any faith other than Islam.

True, Monis seemed crazy. True, crazy people of all kinds kill, and do not need a faith to make them pull a trigger — as we saw at Port Arthur.

Yet are the apologists really trying to dismiss the faith of Monis as just an astonishing coincidence?

Must we always feign this surprise when a terrorist is found to be — gasp — Muslim? Surely we can finally drop this absurd game given that 21 of the 21 people jailed for terrorism offences here in the past couple of decades were Muslim, as are 19 of the 20 proscribed terrorist groups in Australia.

Surely we’re entitled to conclude that something specific to Islam seems to license violence, given we have just as many Buddhists here as Muslims, yet not one Buddhist has killed here for his faith.

Yes, Monis was not a rational man, which I suspect is true of so many other notorious Islamist killers, including Australian head-hackers Khaled Sharrouf and Mohamed Elomar, now fighting for the Islamic State.

The question is: what would Christianity have inspired a Monis to do? Preach Armageddon at some street corner?

Now ask what Islam, as interpreted by a minority of extremists, whispered in Monis’s ear.

Whisper? It shouted. As Monis’s lawyer conceded on Tuesday: “His ideology is just so strong and so powerful that it clouds his vision for common sense and objectiveness.”

The ideology Monis followed was inspired in large part by Islamic scriptures that urge believers to “kill the polytheists wherever you find them”, and exhorts: “So when you meet those who disbelieve (in battle), strike (their) necks.”

We’re told, as always, that those who take seriously such passages in the Koran and Hadith are a tiny, unrepresentative minority.

But wait. The Sydney Morning Herald reports that Monis had more than 14,000 “likes” on Facebook, and a Muslim community leader asked by counter-terrorism authorities to find the Islamic State flag Monis demanded said: “I found plenty of people who had one, but they didn’t want to give them up.”

So why this denial about Islam — and specifically about its role in this attack?

For the authorities it is about public order. They fear reprisals against Muslims, and also do not wish to alienate the overwhelming majority of peaceful Muslims here whose help they need against the radicals.

For the Left more generally, to admit the latent threat in Islam would be to question disastrous Leftist programs that have left this country more exposed to political violence — particularly our too-lax immigration programs, multiculturalism and the much-rorted “refugee” programs that let in Monis in 1996. It is also to seem unkind.

But the denial, the racism of the anti-racists, it all must end.

The elements are shocking, true. But Islam contains a strong streak of violence and intolerance of other creeds. Mass immigration from the Middle East has left us in greater danger than before. Muslim leaders were recklessly slow to help fight extremism in their doctrine and their followers, including the mad.

And by screaming “racist” rather than allowing debate, our academics, commentators and politicians deafened us to the warnings until it was too late.

[branham1965]

that is something about guns over there.every thug and hoodlum has one here.

decent citizens own them too.


how on earth did he get out after killing his wife?????

this is a heart breaking story.

every day here a lunatic shoots folks.

[Ironman]

that is something about guns over there.every thug and hoodlum has one here.

decent citizens own them too.


how on earth did he get out after killing his wife?????

this is a heart breaking story.

every day here a lunatic shoots folks.

God be with us all.

These murderes now have killed a hundred or more children and 9 teachers in Pakistan yesterday? Maybe now the Pakistani government might come down hard on these Islamic murderes instead of offering them a safe haven!