bibleman wrote:Have you listened to Joseph Prince or Creflo Dollar?Justaned wrote:Grandfather wrote:I won't say you've haven't heard that, but I can say it's not the message I've heard.bibleman wrote:The grace message being preached today says that your sins are forgiven past, present and future. That once saved, you need never repent or confess sin again. Thus no fear of God or eternal damnation.Grandfather wrote:Please tell me your understanding of "the grace message being preached today" and how it is different from the grace message that Paul preached in Romans?bibleman wrote:Prov. 16:6 ¶ By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.
Can the grace message being preached today produce a departure from evil?PRO. 16:6 Dake note.
{a} By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil By the mercy and truth of God atonement for sin is made and iniquity is purged; through fear of Him men depart from sin (Jn. 16:6; Tit. 3:5).
I agree that is not the message I have heard either.
You are kidding.. Right? I would no more listen to those two than I would listen to Muslim cleric. Fact is I try my best to avoid most TV preachers. Most have terrible theology and most will say and do anything if it means the viewer will tune them in again. No I haven't heard them nor will I.