So then I'm saying faith plus works for what? You have lost me some where.bibleman wrote:So then you are saying faith PLUS works right?Justaned wrote: What???????????????? I said faith without works is dead faith.
This thread is talking of the Lordship of Jesus Christ. I'm saying a mature Christian does more than simply believe in Christ. They put works to their faith. They strive for righteousness, the obey Jesus many commands, they attend church, the are committed to a church, they encourage one another, they exhort and edify other believers, the support ministry with offerings, and they worship God with their tithe.
When I meet someone that says I believe therefore I am saved but they are still living in the world, holding to the world's value system, doing what they please, sleeping in on Sunday morning and refusing to pay their tithe because the Pastor owns a corvette I have a hard time accepting that they are in fact saved.