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titus213 wrote:Nonsense. Beth Moore would not have spoken that way a few short years ago. But now she has to market herself to a certain segment of believers who are gullible to such drivel. Alcoholism being "deposited" in a family line? Please! Just more excuse forpeople to avoid personal responsibility.
I don't know what she would have said "a few short years ago" only what was said in the article I read, of which I quoted a small portion. But I can tell you from the article, avoiding responsibility was not what she was enabling people to do, in fact it was the opposite.



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Ed,

Thank you for your time and your thoughtful response. I think we have more in common on this topic, but may be struggling with the expressing them.

If I understood you correctly, you see "generational" issues (sin?) passed on, even among believers. Some people can simply grasp the truth of 2 Cor 5:17 and move forward. Others while knowing it to be true struggle with "roots" because they have been so ingrained in their past. In our own lives, we know of areas that have come easy for us to hear and believe the truth of Gods word while others struggle with that same area. YET, in other areas we struggle in applying and walking out a truth while other people do it with easy. While the end results are the same, the process is different.

What I am alarmed at is that some people are condemning the process because, for them, they it was different. (I'm not suggesting that all processes are good or godly, but I won't condemn all processes because some are not biblically accurate.)

Again thanks for your help. Any additional information to help "where the rubber meets the road" as you say, would be appreciated.



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Grandfather wrote:Perhaps if I change the terminology slightly it will help give insight and you can help me along my journey for answers.

Instead of call for information on "Generational Curses" I should ask for information on "generational strongholds" I've just recently read a piece by Beth Moore and here is what she had to say:
For instance, if a pollster took a census of the number of alcoholics in three generations of an alcoholic patriarch's family, the head count likely would be very high. Why? Because alcoholism was deposited in the family line. It came calling, and an unfortunate number of children and grandchildren answered the door.
Can you think of any negative traits or habits in your life that have been in your family line for generations? Perhaps you can identify negative patterns such as alcoholism, verbal or physical abuse, pornography, racism, bitterness, or fear. These areas of bondage are anything you may have learned environmentally, anything to which you may be genetically predisposed, or any binding influence passed down through other means. Whatever the bondage may be, the Lord wants to rebuild, restore, and renew these areas of devastation.
We must face generational strongholds head-on. If we don't, they can remain almost unrecognizable—but they don't remain benign. Family strongholds continue to be the seedbed for all sorts of destruction. Oftentimes we've grown up with these chains and they feel completely natural. We consider them part of our personality rather than a strangling yoke.
BTW - she does not believe in a Generational Curse in the traditional sense. What really caught my attention was the last two sentences.

Comments?

I believe what Beth Moore said here has a degree of truth in the life of non Christians. I also think a lot of non Christians tend to use generational failures as excuses for their own bad behavior.

But less us face facts if our relatives had job that that allowed them and they were savers many left their children our parents in good financial situations which reflected on our lives. Likewise people that weren't able to save to pass on their children many times the children found themselves in financial disadvantage and many times they couldn't overcome it and likewise their children have difficultly also.



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Grandfather wrote:Ed,

Thank you for your time and your thoughtful response. I think we have more in common on this topic, but may be struggling with the expressing them.

If I understood you correctly, you see "generational" issues (sin?) passed on, even among believers. Some people can simply grasp the truth of 2 Cor 5:17 and move forward. Others while knowing it to be true struggle with "roots" because they have been so ingrained in their past. In our own lives, we know of areas that have come easy for us to hear and believe the truth of Gods word while others struggle with that same area. YET, in other areas we struggle in applying and walking out a truth while other people do it with easy. While the end results are the same, the process is different.

What I am alarmed at is that some people are condemning the process because, for them, they it was different. (I'm not suggesting that all processes are good or godly, but I won't condemn all processes because some are not biblically accurate.)

Again thanks for your help. Any additional information to help "where the rubber meets the road" as you say, would be appreciated.
Yes I think we do agree on much of this subject. And you are right we tend to be judgmental. I know when I came to Christ I had two things in my life that people struggle with almost their entire life to overcome, yet mine left me in an instant never to return never to even be a temptation. However I have another thing I struggle with constantly. Had I not had this I would be very judgmental of others. However since I have something I struggle with I know what they are going through.



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