The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints

Justaned · **Joined:** Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:19 pm **Posts:** 1233

In another discussion someone mistook a discussion on the false Pentecostal movement known as the Latter Day Rain as being a discussion on The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints or Mormons as they are also known.

In his post he said

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We are Christ's church, despite our differances.

The founder of the Marriot hotel chain was Morman and went before the elders
and was healed of Cancer. This say's a lot.

There are two subjects here but they stand together.
First Mormons are not followers of Jesus Christ the only Son of God, the God of Abraham, Jacob, and Isaac.

Instead they follow a invented being called Jesus Christ who they believe was in fact the Spirit brother of Satan. Jesus and Satan are the sons of Elohim who is God of this earth and lives on another planet. Elohim was once a mortal man that lived a good life and because it was a good life when he died, his spirit was allowed to become a god and etc.
Elohim had a wife in his past life and when he died and she died they joined together on his new planet and had spirit babies. They then went to the world he was god over as Adam and Eve and made physical babies. When a physical baby is born a spirit baby they made indwells the body and you have a new person.

In the mean time there was a war an argument in heaven over how men on this new planet should worship Elohim. Jesus said let them fall in love with Elohim and worship him freely. Satan on the other hand said they us make man worship Elohim.
This argument got out of hand and war broke out between Jesus and Satan. Satan took a third of the spirit babies with him and they are now what we know as demons.

They further believe that when they die if they lived a good Mormon life they will then become gods of their own planet. Their wife of this world who was sealed with them in a temple service will be their wife and they will make spirit babies to inhabit this new world of theirs.

Mormons believe "as man is god once was and as god is man will fianlly become."

Not the definition of an eternal God now is it?

There is a lot more to the story but I hope this is enough to convince you they are not Christians even though they worship a being called Jesus Christ. Their Jesus Christ is a creation of mortal man and mortal woman that had died. He was not the only sone but one of many he being he first and Satan the second.

Now to address the healing aspect. Not all healings are divine. The body has strong healing power and many times it can heal itself. Also Satan is a counterfeiter and does many things God does. We see this clearly explained in Rev where the Beast does many signs and wondes to trick people into thinking he is God. God will only heal when He get all the glory. In the case of Mormons it would be Elohim a man that once was mortal and now god of the this earth that would get the glory. Therefore a healing in Mormon church is not of our God.

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When I'm staying in a motel a block from the Morman Tabernacle I'm not allowed
in either. I've worked with many Mormans, and they're fine people, better than
the carnality we see so abundant. We must love each other dispite our differances
for neither of us are of this world, however, both the Mormans and other denominations
must understand we are Christ's church all together. Not being a good Samaritan applies
to us all, regardless of what geographic entity we domicile.

Your right I also know many Mormons and the ones I know are the nicest people. In fact I would rather be around them many times than some of the people in church. They are hard workers, have fine families and yes we should care about them. However our differences are such that we must view them not as brothers and sisters in Christ but rather as lost people deceived and on their way to hell. We need to tell them about our Jesus.

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When I'm working years with Mormals, we can mutually discuss the bible
as opposed to no-believers. They are in our domain, a part of us, but
yet not. We can trust a Morman over the cruelity of the world, we
can trust a Morman as we identify with Mormans moreover than the
evil, the wicked in our place of work.

Yes you can discuss the Bible with Mormons but understand they believe their Book of Mormon supercedes your Bible. That any teaching in your Bible that contradicts the Mormon teaching is false.
Also while there is great evil in this world Mormons are not exempt from it. Many Mormon insiders that have come out and told the world what really was being taught in the Mormon church were hunted down and killed. Even many today live in fear of their lives having been many target of the church the once attended.

The problem is people don't care enough to learn about other denominations, and religions. People simply think that because their father or their father's father was such and such they should become such and such. Scripture repeatedly tells us to be good workmen, to be wise, to study and mediate the things of God. Today we have people loving Mormons but don't know they worship a different God. We have Protestants hating Catholics and vice versa and in most incidents those that are most against the other has a totally wrong understanding of what they believe. We have Baptist hating Pentecostals and Pentecostals hating Lutherans. We have people hating Calvinist that don't know what Calvin taught and we have people hating Arminians but don't know what the Arminian teaching really is.
It is time people stop watching TV and start thinking for themselves. They need to be informed of the differences between the various denominations, religions and cults.

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There too are many attending church's claiming to be Christians regardless of denomination that offer up only lip service to God. They are among us in every denomination
and they are not of the Lord. Their ways are not God's ways.

This comment is absolutely true and very sad indeed.

I wrote this not to put down the original writer of the post, nor to hold him up to public ridicule but rather to help him realize his misconception of Mormons. If I offended the original writer for doing this I apologize, but I simply couldn't think of a better way to address these misconceptions. I pray this is received as I intended it and the facts it contains aren't lost due to misunderstanding.
Justaned

davido · **Joined:** Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:01 am **Posts:** 134

I worked for a major U.S. corporation for 41 years.

I worked with Mormans and they were most sincere. We discussed the bible.
I never agree with their beliefs outside the bible.

Now, most of the people who claimed to be Christians, were heathens, pagans.
They did not know their bible, they definately did not practice their bible, they
did not know God.

Then we have those whom are non-Christians. Evil in their thoughts, their ways.

In 41 years the only people who were helpful was an Islamic who founded the
Islamic mosque in Omaha and a complete nonbeliever who came to my defence
after having hated me, then finding I was not as he thought and on his own
he went before the labor relations conference room and defended me.

It is sad, those who claim to be Christians do not practice their Christianity.
In the military also, it was not the Christians who had mercy, but those who
were not so Christian. It seems Christians are ignorant of the beliefs in general
in the workplace. Some of the most cruel, unethical, perverse people are those
whom claim to be Christians. As for me, I always did my work 'as unto God'
and I always do whats right. I never sway, but I do not reject Mormans, SDA's
as they are sincere in their faith. I may not agree with them, but I listen to them
and I see what of the bible they do believe. Even catholics do not believe for
the most part the pope is holy, they not generally practice confession before
a priest. Even on the Dake bible discussion board many process tithing of which
we did discuss. Are we to reject those whom 70 voted tithing was right, when
in fact it is anti-scriptitual.
Another fine man, who I worked with was an athiest, and he was more helpful,
more merciful than the those whom were ardent church attendees. I had a manger
that was a member of a Lutheran church who was a crook. Being management myself
at one point I was sent to a class on management, but when the manager found it
was a credit to me on my record, he tried to erase it. Continually only those whom
were from his terriroty he came from were ever promoted, but downgraded others
who were not of his cast.

So, I had a vision of 1 Corinthian 3 of which we're to find unity in Jesus Christ's
church. We do not live in a Christian insulated world of fellow believers that perhaps
99% do not practice their faith. I am staunch in my adherence to scripiture, but
I do not dissacciate myself from others that beliver differently than I.

In practice, in the church now, many denominations accept homosexuality,
womens taking the priesthood and phrophet of the father to their own power.
In your own church, how many people are actually Christians in their business
practices, their Christian fellowship beyond mere talk. You know very well
what the doctrines of most Christian churches are not the same practices
of the chruch. If one reads the doctrine of any Christian chruch and compares
it to the actually practices, what church would qualify? In the post 'finding a chruch'
most ardent, most well bible reading people, cannot identify with a church because
the church's do not adhere to their doctrines.

It is easy to be anti-Islamic, to be anti-catholic, to be anti-SDA, to be anti-Morman
but it is easy to uphold your own chruch's practices that are contracy to the
doctrine of the church. Whether you be in your own denomination or not,
the observation from a bibical point of view is mostly gray.

If people are to know us by our love, then we've not many who know us.
Just get on a church board, and be a part of the decision making process.
You find not many are Christian in their decisions. I've been on several church
boards, and have had the opportunity to be placed as the last vote to break a tie
and I did receive God's leading in decisions. Also, the biggest problem in ministry
is the pastor cleaving for those with money, not the Spirit's leading.

How many people do you know who really know their bible, and really meditate
on the word applying it in practice in business, career. Do you not accept then
those whom in your own faith that have more inconsistancies than adherance to
God's word. You may accept those whom are busybodies, loose with tongue,
quick to do harm, quick to cheat, quick to sidestep moral solutions for money.

When it comes right down to it, in the real world of people, it is very difficult to
find practicing Christians other than a show of conversation during chruch.
Outside of church, the statistics show a middle school having 50% of its
children have divorced parents. I do not reject all divorced people as I myself
have been divorced and it only takes one partner to cause a divorse. But on
the Dake bible discussion board, too all divorced people are unacceptable to
the majority. It is with hyposcrisy that we eliminate individuals based on the
doctrines of their church or accept them based on a church doctrine because
they are not ardent in their doctinres one way or the other.

We all have the ability to be led of The Spirit and each circumstance we
should have the unction of the Spirit to led us. If the Jews rejected Christ,
then we are certain to reject Him also, if we're not led of the Spirit.
Christians, need to be able to agree on what they can but not surrender
the gospel in doing so. We have a greater problem in our own fellow Christians
not knowing or practicing the gospel except on Sunday.

Justaned · **Joined:** Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:19 pm **Posts:** 1233

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I worked with Mormans and they were most sincere. We discussed the bible.
I never agree with their beliefs outside the bible.

No one can deny that many tmes Mormons are very sincere. However sincerety is not the key to heaven. Belief in Jesus Christ is. While they say they believe in Jesus Christ one only has to study their religion to learn that to a Mormon the one they call Jesus Christ is the spirit brother of Satan, the son a god that was once a man. Therefore they do not believe in the Jesus of the gospels but rather one of their own making.

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Now, most of the people who claimed to be Christians, were heathens, pagans.
They did not know their bible, they definately did not practice their bible, they
did not know God.

Then we have those whom are non-Christians. Evil in their thoughts, their ways.

Sad but unfortunately often true.

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In 41 years the only people who were helpful was an Islamic who founded the
Islamic mosque in Omaha and a complete nonbeliever who came to my defence
after having hated me, then finding I was not as he thought and on his own
he went before the labor relations conference room and defended me.

Again if righteousness or even righteous living were the key to heaven many Christians would never make it and many pagans or muslims would. However Jesus said the key to heaven was through Him and Him alone.

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It is sad, those who claim to be Christians do not practice their Christianity.
In the military also, it was not the Christians who had mercy, but those who
were not so Christian. It seems Christians are ignorant of the beliefs in general
in the workplace. Some of the most cruel, unethical, perverse people are those
whom claim to be Christians. As for me, I always did my work 'as unto God'
and I always do whats right. I never sway, but I do not reject Mormans, SDA's
as they are sincere in their faith.

Yes the conduct of many Christians is sad. However Mormons and Muslims are lost people. No matter how ethical they are, not matter how careing they are, no matter how righteous they appear, without the blood of Jesus to wash away their sins they are lost.

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It is easy to be anti-Islamic, to be anti-catholic, to be anti-SDA, to be anti-Morman
but it is easy to uphold your own chruch's practices that are contracy to the
doctrine of the church. Whether you be in your own denomination or not,
the observation from a bibical point of view is mostly gray.

If people are to know us by our love, then we've not many who know us.
Just get on a church board, and be a part of the decision making process.
You find not many are Christian in their decisions. I've been on several church
boards, and have had the opportunity to be placed as the last vote to break a tie
and I did receive God's leading in decisions. Also, the biggest problem in ministry
is the pastor cleaving for those with money, not the Spirit's leading.

How many people do you know who really know their bible, and really meditate
on the word applying it in practice in business, career. Do you not accept then
those whom in your own faith that have more inconsistancies than adherance to
God's word. You may accept those whom are busybodies, loose with tongue,
quick to do harm, quick to cheat, quick to sidestep moral solutions for money.

When it comes right down to it, in the real world of people, it is very difficult to
find practicing Christians other than a show of conversation during chruch.
Outside of church, the statistics show a middle school having 50% of its
children have divorced parents. I do not reject all divorced people as I myself
have been divorced and it only takes one partner to cause a divorse. But on
the Dake bible discussion board, too all divorced people are unacceptable to
the majority. It is with hyposcrisy that we eliminate individuals based on the
doctrines of their church or accept them based on a church doctrine because
they are not ardent in their doctinres one way or the other.

We all have the ability to be led of The Spirit and each circumstance we
should have the unction of the Spirit to led us. If the Jews rejected Christ,
then we are certain to reject Him also, if we're not led of the Spirit.
Christians, need to be able to agree on what they can but not surrender
the gospel in doing so. We have a greater problem in our own fellow Christians
not knowing or practicing the gospel except on Sunday.
I worked for a major U.S. corporation for 41 years.

I worked with Mormans and they were most sincere. We discussed the bible.
I never agree with their beliefs outside the bible.

Now, most of the people who claimed to be Christians, were heathens, pagans.
They did not know their bible, they definately did not practice their bible, they
did not know God.

Then we have those whom are non-Christians. Evil in their thoughts, their ways.

In 41 years the only people who were helpful was an Islamic who founded the
Islamic mosque in Omaha and a complete nonbeliever who came to my defence
after having hated me, then finding I was not as he thought and on his own
he went before the labor relations conference room and defended me.

It is sad, those who claim to be Christians do not practice their Christianity.
In the military also, it was not the Christians who had mercy, but those who
were not so Christian. It seems Christians are ignorant of the beliefs in general
in the workplace. Some of the most cruel, unethical, perverse people are those
whom claim to be Christians. As for me, I always did my work 'as unto God'
and I always do whats right. I never sway, but I do not reject Mormans, SDA's
as they are sincere in their faith. I may not agree with them, but I listen to them
and I see what of the bible they do believe. Even catholics do not believe for
the most part the pope is holy, they not generally practice confession before
a priest. Even on the Dake bible discussion board many process tithing of which
we did discuss. Are we to reject those whom 70 voted tithing was right, when
in fact it is anti-scriptitual.
Another fine man, who I worked with was an athiest, and he was more helpful,
more merciful than the those whom were ardent church attendees. I had a manger
that was a member of a Lutheran church who was a crook. Being management myself
at one point I was sent to a class on management, but when the manager found it
was a credit to me on my record, he tried to erase it. Continually only those whom
were from his terriroty he came from were ever promoted, but downgraded others
who were not of his cast.

So, I had a vision of 1 Corinthian 3 of which we're to find unity in Jesus Christ's
church. We do not live in a Christian insulated world of fellow believers that perhaps
99% do not practice their faith. I am staunch in my adherence to scripiture, but
I do not dissacciate myself from others that beliver differently than I.

In practice, in the church now, many denominations accept homosexuality,
womens taking the priesthood and phrophet of the father to their own power.
In your own church, how many people are actually Christians in their business
practices, their Christian fellowship beyond mere talk. You know very well
what the doctrines of most Christian churches are not the same practices
of the chruch. If one reads the doctrine of any Christian chruch and compares
it to the actually practices, what church would qualify? In the post 'finding a chruch'
most ardent, most well bible reading people, cannot identify with a church because
the church's do not adhere to their doctrines.

It is easy to be anti-Islamic, to be anti-catholic, to be anti-SDA, to be anti-Morman
but it is easy to uphold your own chruch's practices that are contracy to the
doctrine of the church. Whether you be in your own denomination or not,
the observation from a bibical point of view is mostly gray.

If people are to know us by our love, then we've not many who know us.
Just get on a church board, and be a part of the decision making process.
You find not many are Christian in their decisions. I've been on several church
boards, and have had the opportunity to be placed as the last vote to break a tie
and I did receive God's leading in decisions. Also, the biggest problem in ministry
is the pastor cleaving for those with money, not the Spirit's leading.

How many people do you know who really know their bible, and really meditate
on the word applying it in practice in business, career. Do you not accept then
those whom in your own faith that have more inconsistancies than adherance to
God's word. You may accept those whom are busybodies, loose with tongue,
quick to do harm, quick to cheat, quick to sidestep moral solutions for money.

When it comes right down to it, in the real world of people, it is very difficult to
find practicing Christians other than a show of conversation during chruch.
Outside of church, the statistics show a middle school having 50% of its
children have divorced parents. I do not reject all divorced people as I myself
have been divorced and it only takes one partner to cause a divorse. But on
the Dake bible discussion board, too all divorced people are unacceptable to
the majority. It is with hyposcrisy that we eliminate individuals based on the
doctrines of their church or accept them based on a church doctrine because
they are not ardent in their doctinres one way or the other.

We all have the ability to be led of The Spirit and each circumstance we
should have the unction of the Spirit to led us. If the Jews rejected Christ,
then we are certain to reject Him also, if we're not led of the Spirit.
Christians, need to be able to agree on what they can but not surrender
the gospel in doing so. We have a greater problem in our own fellow Christians
not knowing or practicing the gospel except on Sunday.

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Much of what you said here is correct. And we should never reject someone because of what they believe. However we have been commanded by Jesus to witness to them, to try to make them understand that they need Jesus in their life. If we fail to do this, if we offer them false hope by never confronting their mistaken beliefs we have failed to do what Jesus commanded us to do.

We also need to remember there is vast difference between disagreeing on titheing and believing in false Jesus.

davido · **Joined:** Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:01 am **Posts:** 134

Justaned :

It is overwhelming those whom call themseves Christians, but
alas, their bibles are dust collectors.

God's love is great and I see in the lifes of people His love,
His individual blessings for those whom are in the balance
as to whether they believe or not. God does go to great
lengths for His people, for those whom really do not totally accept
God.

I can only wonder, the fence riders, how many will make it thru the
narrow gate. As a computer programmer, I read the door to hades
is wide and the gate to heaven is narrow. If one is writing a program
one must come up with a percentage. What I wonder is narrow, 5%, 10%
or 20%? Gonig back to Abraham asking God, how many righteous in
the city it would take to save Sodom and Gomorrah, there was obviously
less than 5%, of which the city was destroyed. Hence, the destruction
of Sodom and Gomorrah and also the man in Luke 16, would suggest
the narrow gate would be moreover 5% or less. It is awesome the
ignorance of the scriptures and the complacency of church goers,
those whom calim for the sake of psycholical security their salavation
and secondly their accounting even if they are saved. I never knew
once one was saved, that we must give an accounting. Yesterday
i'm studying Mark 9, and especially Mark 9:23. I then link to scriptures
how God keeps track of our doings in our daily life. It must be awesome
the records kept on each of us. I'm then too watching a life after death
experience of a lady on a documentary that saw her surgery and the
conversations of the surgeons and nurses and was able to convey the
whole operation during her brain surgery. I found 3 scriptures referenced from
Habbakuk about God keeping an account of each of us.

Yes, I found in my work experience, when I converse with those of other
faiths, they do listen. We too are the light of the world, and our communication
with Islamics, Mormans, SDC seem only conversation with those we can identify
about the bible. I'm not saying I accept or argue the point with them, but in
our conversations with civil, well mannered, conversant people even athiests
they do remember our conversations. I had an fellow who hated me, until
one day I poured him a cup of coffee. This simple act turned my enemie's
hatred into love. One day I came in the office and he is preaching my
technical information to his peers. It always behooves me, how people
who perhaps are argumentative, do listen to what we say.

It is nonetheless sad people are a facade of Christianity at church and
the rest of the week they're a Dr. Jeckel and Hide.

Again, I am led to bring Jesus church together, dispite our differances.
I think if people can agree on the Apoltles creed, thats as close as
we will ever come to unity. I unsubscribed from one online prayer group
that took all faiths prayers. I have one God and my God does not share
allegiance. I will not be a part of a prayer group of all gods.

Justaned · **Joined:** Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:19 pm **Posts:** 1233

Davido
I'm not sure I know where you are going in all of this.
Is there hypocrisy in the church today? Yes there is

Are there many non Christians in the church today? Yes I would guess that less than 25% that regularily attend church are truly saved.

Will Mormons or Muslims get to heaven? No Jesus said He was the door (the only door) and entrance to the Father was through Him.

Is it possible to find people that are more Christlike in world than we often find in church? Yes it is but being Christlike does not mean your saved.

Should we associate with non Christians? Yes as far as establishing a relationship to witness to them, to be their friends, however we are cautioned by scripture not to become yoked to them.

Is it possible to have good discussions about religion and scripture with non Christians? Yes and many times it is easier since so many Christians today refuse to use critical thinking. It is easier for them to justify their laziness in the thinking department as "faith" and accept everything that sounds good to them.

Davido if you making some other point here I am apparently missing it, if so please restate it.
Justaned

davido · **Joined:** Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:01 am **Posts:** 134

Question" Where am I going with this.
That is a good question.
Where I am going is what i've found more books written on 1 Cor 3
concerning spiritual maturity, the division and strife within the collective
church. We are supposedly all readers of Dake's bible, God's Plan for man.
When there's a poll on tithing we get a resounding 70 yeas. Now I ask
"How many people have visions, and the outpouring of The Holy Spirit in
the may ways Dake lists as receiving guidance, from The Holy Spirit?

In what ways can we cause reform within the many denominations to
adhere to their doctrines of faith? We have many debates, discussions
on subjects, when in reality, all we need to do is meditate on any one
of these issues, come before the Lord in meditation and ask God to
answer our questions? How many of the Dake discussion board actually
express any intervention in their quests. Joshua was to meditate day
and night upon the word. How many of the participants actually seek
the Lord and get answers to their questions that are essential to their
spiritual growth. So, one is the personal meditation of the believer for
their spiritual growth, receiving the unction of the Holy Spirit, the
ability thru Jesus Christ to know good from evil, to discern?

Secondly, as believers are we not to see the good in those faiths
that proclaim the Apostles creed? How many people can accept the
many books of saints in Christ's church that do profess the Apostles
Creed and try to comprehend the saints of the various denominations.
I like to read about the Catholic saints of which I am not of that faith.
What does 1 Cor 13 lead us to do in appreciating faiths other than
our own, in the miracles of Christ by the evidence of the saints thru
the centuries, of miracles that do not fit our own religious background.
Do people see Christ in other faiths that God works?

So we have many such as Katheran Coleman, bishop sheen from the 1950's.
Do the adherents of the discussion board reject Bishop Sheen as being a devout
Christian?

What then is the command mean in 1 Cor 13 of Paul versus Apollos?

Does that answer your question and what commentary to these questions
do the members of the discussion board have?
It would seem, we become so ingrained with rejecting other faiths that
adhere to the Apostles creed, of which in their own denominations the
gap between their doctrines and the actual practices is wide.
Any comment on this?

alas, we are led to those of other denominations, we see Christ,
the leading of the Holy Spirit in being active in many people's lives
from atheists, catholics. I am left with the impression we're to
be spiritual hermits, when God in alive and active in people's
lives. I may never believe other denominations faith, however
I see the spirit very much alive in other denominations.

Hence, God does not lead us to those whom we are precisely likeminded
in the scriptures. In the book by the "hunters' it is stated God uses
people from a variety of persons in what is likened to a stream of people
from many walks of life, many people from various backgrounds.

So, two questions.. 1)Where is the leading of The Spirit in our discussons
and 2) what is our interpersonal relationships in appreciating the works
of Christ in other denominations? Do we then think we as Christians
reject all other faiths that are based on the Apostles creed but rather
give unity to unbelievers in the social discource of our lives?

We live in an age of mobility, an age of global acculturation when people
are being brought togehter from different cultures, faiths as never before.
It is not new that our children, marry into only our own faith.
How do the members of the disucssion board handle the acculturation
of a populaton that is more dilluted by many of various cultures and
faiths whose doctines believe in God the Father, Jesus Christ and
The Holy Spirit or are we strking out everyone except those whom
adhere to the pure word as we see it. Again, we begin to delute the
pure word of God, by our bulding communication with those who
belive in non-scripitual tithing, and in our own denominations the
gap between doctine and practice is wide. at one line do we
draw a line. Then too, I pick out the sore points between the laws
of socety versus those of the bible. Polygamy I find no reference it
is immoral, yet social norm's become blended to alter scripture.
I pick out these issues not because I'm a polygamist, but because
it is a subject that the bible does not have any support to call sin.
When ever I find christiand proclaiming subjects the bible does
not call sin, I concentrate on the sociology and psychology of peoples
thinking.

Boo · **Joined:** Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:09 pm **Posts:** 158

This is an interesting topic for me. I have a book at home (but I am not at home right now) that addresses Christain "myths." Things that I heard as a child yet not in the Bible. It seems that some phrases become favored phrases over the years, never being dismissed as missing from the Gospel. I was not aware of them until I ran across this book in the Christian Book Store.

The truth is not always sought out. We find it easier to believe someone who professes to be a teacher. These teachers do not lke to be questioned about what they teach, as they may have been one of those who learned something from another teacher years ago and just accepted everything as true.

I have discovered (I am still new in my seeking God's truth) that many other denominations believe the Gospel, but they alter some surrounding philosophies that don't fit in with what I know as "right." I have also discovered that things I used to think was true really are not. It can be a tough pill to swalow, but I am learning not to fight it, but to ponder it and seek the answers.

That is the cause of my comiing to this forum. I appreciate honest open discussions when I find them.

I have also discovered that God's truth is not discovered through a poll.

Justaned · **Joined:** Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:19 pm **Posts:** 1233

Davido
First off this thread is on Mormons and Mormons don't hold to the Apostles Creed.
Simply because their Jesus is not the Jesus of Gospels the Son of an Eternal God. Their God had a beginning as did their Jesus.

Also you seem to want to use the Apostle's Creed as a litmus test of Christianity. Are you aware many Protestant denominations refuse to accept and say any creed? In fact most Pentecostal denominations either refuse or never use the Apostle's Creed. I personally believe this is wrong but that is another topic and if you want to discuss the Apostle's Creed and whether it should be something that is spoken in church services or not open the thread.

This discussion was on the false belief that Mormons are Christianity.
Justaned

macca · **Posted:** Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:32 am

howdy boo, when i discovered dake's bible the same thing happened to me, it made me sit back and think a lot of things through, mainly what had me in bondage to my past beliefs.
Thank God for men like rev Dake who are not afraid to speak the truth
macca :multi:

Boo wrote:

This is an interesting topic for me. I have a book at home (but I am not at home right now) that addresses Christain "myths." Things that I heard as a child yet not in the Bible. It seems that some phrases become favored phrases over the years, never being dismissed as missing from the Gospel. I was not aware of them until I ran across this book in the Christian Book Store.

The truth is not always sought out. We find it easier to believe someone who professes to be a teacher. These teachers do not lke to be questioned about what they teach, as they may have been one of those who learned something from another teacher years ago and just accepted everything as true.

I have discovered (I am still new in my seeking God's truth) that many other denominations believe the Gospel, but they alter some surrounding philosophies that don't fit in with what I know as "right." I have also discovered that things I used to think was true really are not. It can be a tough pill to swalow, but I am learning not to fight it, but to ponder it and seek the answers.

That is the cause of my comiing to this forum. I appreciate honest open discussions when I find them.

I have also discovered that God's truth is not discovered through a poll.

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