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by Spiritblade Disciple
Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:51 am
Forum: Dake Bible Discussion Board
Topic: What We Believe
Replies: 14
Views: 84

Re: What We Believe

Then that leaves me with two options... Do I believe Peter that they had received the Holy Ghost without water baptism? Or do I believe you who says a person cannot be born again without being water baptized? If I choose to believe you, I cannot believe Peter (because an unsaved person cannot receiv...
by Spiritblade Disciple
Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:33 pm
Forum: Dake Bible Discussion Board
Topic: What We Believe
Replies: 14
Views: 84

Re: What We Believe

Who's rebelling? It is clear that the gentiles at Cornelius' house were saved and had received the Holy Ghost without water baptism. Would they have lost salvation had they refused to be baptized? Or, do you prefer to say that they had not received the Holy Ghost (Whom the world cannot receive) sinc...
by Spiritblade Disciple
Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:47 pm
Forum: Dake Bible Discussion Board
Topic: What We Believe
Replies: 14
Views: 84

Re: What We Believe

I strongly believe in water baptism and tongue-speaking. However, I think there have been people that were saved without water baptism or tongue-speaking. In fact, I'd say that there is no question that many have received the Holy Ghost without ever speaking in tongues. And some have spoken in tongu...
by Spiritblade Disciple
Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:01 pm
Forum: Dake Bible Discussion Board
Topic: If this is true then Prince is in a lot of trouble!
Replies: 15
Views: 160

Re: If this is true then Prince is in a lot of trouble!

"Salvation is free - the kingdom is not!" I've heard that one from others, also. They say that there's a difference between being a child of God and inheriting the Kingdom. One example that is typically given is the example of the two brothers. One went prodigal and lost his inheritance, ...
by Spiritblade Disciple
Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:54 pm
Forum: Dake Bible Discussion Board
Topic: Pope wants to change the Lords prayer
Replies: 10
Views: 54

Re: Pope wants to change the Lords prayer

Ironman wrote:When ever I am tempted I pray the Lords prayer and what ever the temptation, it leaves immediately.

:angel:
by Spiritblade Disciple
Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:24 pm
Forum: Dake Bible Discussion Board
Topic: What We Believe
Replies: 14
Views: 84

Re: What We Believe

The idea that both water baptism and tongue-speaking are required for salvation means that there are many who aren't saved.
by Spiritblade Disciple
Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:22 pm
Forum: Dake Bible Discussion Board
Topic: Pope wants to change the Lords prayer
Replies: 10
Views: 54

Re: Pope wants to change the Lords prayer

Does God lead people into temptation, unless they daily ask Him not to? I pray the Lord's prayer often. Dr Cho teaches that there are 3 ways to learn. The Word - Giving heed to and obeying the BIBLE The Spirit - Giving heed to and obeying the Holy Ghost Experience - The school of hard knocks and tr...
by Spiritblade Disciple
Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:16 pm
Forum: Dake Bible Discussion Board
Topic: If this is true then Prince is in a lot of trouble!
Replies: 15
Views: 160

Re: If this is true then Prince is in a lot of trouble!

"Salvation is free - the kingdom is not!" I've heard that one from others, also. They say that there's a difference between being a child of God and inheriting the Kingdom. One example that is typically given is the example of the two brothers. One went prodigal and lost his inheritance, ...
by Spiritblade Disciple
Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:11 am
Forum: Dake Bible Discussion Board
Topic: If this is true then Prince is in a lot of trouble!
Replies: 15
Views: 160

Re: If this is true then Prince is in a lot of trouble!

If Copeland still believes the notes that he wrote in his New Testament, he still believes salvation can be lost, but is more like Hagin of Brown than Dake on the issue. Remember for the grace crowd you can lose your salvation but NOT by sinning! Would you agree that this really comes down to preac...

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